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  1. I agree that the teams record should not be taken into consideration... but unfortunately it sometimes is. A teams record is also indirectly taken into consideration because the number one criterion used for evaluating the Cy Young winner is wins (not that it is the correct way). Who is more likely to get wins, the pitcher on a first place team or a pitcher on a fifth place team? Look at last year. Clemens was the best pitcher in the league but got no run support. Carpenter played for the best team in the league, got run support, and won the Cy Young even though his ERA was almost a point higher than Clemens' because he went 21-5 while Clemens went 13-8. Usually, the record difference won't be that high though. What happened to Clemens last year was little short of legendary. Again though, who is likely to get more wins: a player on a fifth place team or a player on a first place team? Nine times out of ten, it's going to be the player on a first place team. Z is likely to get hurt in the eyes of the voters by playing for the Cubs because he is going to lose some victories that he would get if he played for a good team. He's probably lost a couple wins already this year and is likely to lose another couple over the course of the last two months of the season.
  2. Seconded. I vote for "what went right since the ump failed to call the obvious fan interference" The ump made the right call on the play. Alex Gonzalez should have made that play. It was a routine ground ball. I blame Gonzalez. Not Bartman and not the ump.
  3. Unless you are going to New York tomorrow (which is unlikely considering the game is at 12:10 Eastern Time), you won't be seeing Prior this weekend. According to Cubs.com Hill pitches Thursday, TBA (maybe Marmol) on Friday, Maddux on Saturday, and Z on Sunday. It's Monday-Wednesday games next week against Arizona. Ah, ok. Thanks for the correction. I just reread the original post and I missed the "next week" part before.
  4. I agree that the teams record should not be taken into consideration... but unfortunately it sometimes is. A teams record is also indirectly taken into consideration because the number one criterion used for evaluating the Cy Young winner is wins (not that it is the correct way). Who is more likely to get wins, the pitcher on a first place team or a pitcher on a fifth place team? Look at last year. Clemens was the best pitcher in the league but got no run support. Carpenter played for the best team in the league, got run support, and won the Cy Young even though his ERA was almost a point higher than Clemens' because he went 21-5 while Clemens went 13-8.
  5. The Cy Young award isn't handed out to the pitcher who you would want on the mound in a big game, it's handed out to the pitcher who pitched the best over the course of the whole season. So far, Webb and Carpenter have pitched better than Zambrano. I'm not saying I would pick either of those two over Z in a big game, but fact is they have pitched better than Z this year. Will they continue to? Who knows. But if the Cy Young was handed out today, Z would not win it.
  6. When a team has made the postseason a number of years in a row (re: Braves, Yankees), I tend to favor that team to make the playoffs again until they prove me wrong. But what if said team sucks this year? Atlanta plays in the NL where everybody but the Cubs, Pirates, and maybe the Nationals has a chance to make the playoffs. And the Yankees are still the Yankees.
  7. Then again, this is the Cubs.
  8. Z has to catch Webb before he can pull away from him. Webb is doing his part to help that happen tonight. Webb's ERA is now 2.64. And his RA is 2.98 as well now and Z's is 3.46. That's still a decent gap but not as big as the ERA gap, and IMO RA is a better factor of how much a pitcher helps his team than ERA. The difference in WHIP is now down to 0.10. Webb may still have a lead, but Z is coming on fast. Why is RA a better factor? It's not the pitcher's fault if he gives up unearned runs. Obviously unearned runs are going to affect the outcome of the game but this award is for who is the best pitcher for the year and statistics that a pitcher can't control (re: wins, unearned runs) shouldn't affect who wins the award. Don't forget about Chris Carpenter as well, who I also have in front of Z at this point.
  9. Z has to catch Webb before he can pull away from him. Webb is doing his part to help that happen tonight. Webb's ERA is now 2.64.
  10. When a team has made the postseason a number of years in a row (re: Braves, Yankees), I tend to favor that team to make the playoffs again until they prove me wrong.
  11. I didn't know the Giants could play two series at once. Will this be split squad?
  12. AL East: Boston AL Central: Detroit AL West: Anaheim AL WC: New York NL East: New York NL Central: St. Louis NL West: San Diego NL WC: Atlanta ALDS: Detroit over New York Boston over Anaheim NLDS: St. Louis over Atlanta New York over San Diego ALCS: Boston over Detroit NLCS: New York over St. Louis World Series: Boston over New York in 7 The Red Sox get revenge for 1986.
  13. Z has to catch Webb before he can pull away from him.
  14. HR Derby, here we come. Pujols goes deep at least twice.
  15. Just saw this in Cbssportsline.com: According to the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, the Mariners and Rangers are eyeing a possible trade with the Cubs to acquire infielder Todd Walker Of course, who knows how old it is. If the deal is done between the M's and Cleveland, what could we get from the Rangers? Jerry Hairston Jr.
  16. NSBB will explode and cease to exist if Hendry does nothing.
  17. First team to 10 runs wins...if the wind is blowing in. If it's blowing out, first to 20.
  18. At least Prior showed improvement today.
  19. Just trade him somewhere, let him play for a contender, and get him away from Dusty.
  20. And after we trade Barrett, we can trade DLee, ARam and Z. Absolutely not. Keep Barrett.
  21. I like both bands but this isn't close; Led Zeppelin by far.
  22. Because hes an Al Davis guy ;) by the way, i have to hate you somewhat, becasue of your raiderism, seeing as im bronco faithful, you know how it is. Fair enough.
  23. but shouldnt that give even more credibility for Z? The fact that he has an 11-3 record alone should wow alot of voters. Brandon Webb is 11-3 also and his ERA is .76 lower than Z's and Webb's WHIP is lower as well (1.11 compared to 1.23). A team's record should not come into play when deciding the Cy Young. The award is handed out to the best pitcher in the league, not the best pitcher on the best team. Fact is, Webb has been a better so far this year.
  24. I hope they place him gently. The Cubs will try to place Prior on the 15 day DL but they will drop him, he'll break his leg and will have to be placed on the 60 day DL.
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