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And Auburn gets more votes than South Florida in the good ole boy poll. Just because USF beat Auburn it doesn't mean USF is a better team. Just because Oregon thrashed Michigan it doesn't mean Oregon is a better team. Just because ... At this point in the season, there's no reason not to put USF ahead of Auburn. They went to Auburn and beat them and should be ranked ahead. At least the AP Poll got it right.

Appalachian State got 19 votes in the AP Poll this week and are in 33rd place.

Hello second place.

Apparently Carr said that Henne wouldn't play next week against Notre Dame.

Don't know if meant to do it Warp, but no Rutgers?

Davis High or UCDavis? UCD.

The Citadel put up 76 points on Webber today. Better watch out. :D

Roast, Roast, Roast. Ever since you went to college, your memory, well, it hasn't been so good. :wink: First you considered going to Wrigley yesterday to watch the Cubs game even though they're in Pittsburgh. Now you forget that the Cardinals were a game back coming into today so they're two games back.

The team formerly known as The Pathetic Losers From Davis actually won today - a 26-17 victory over Portland State. While I am still very bitter about last week's loss, I will remove the tag I have given them.

Gratuitously pats himself on the back. Good call.

Meanwhile Wisconsin is down 13-12 with 2 minutes to go. EDIT: And just as I say that, Wisconsin scores a TD.

Big East gaining some respect.

I was just coming here to post something on this game.

On another note, does anyone else think Georgia is one of the consistently overrated teams in the past few years? I'm not saying they've been massively overrated, but they always seem to have some pub going into the season but lose one or two games they have no business losing.

First, you started your last post by saying "The Big 11 (sic) was garbage last year." That would be why I used last year's poll results, to refute your argument that the Big Ten was garbage -- I simply added the Big 12's rankings as an aside (seemed topical). Second, I said Texas isn't as good as they were TWO years ago. Not last year. Ohio State could be very good this year and still not be as good as they were last year -- even if they were only the fourth best team or so as you say (and you're probably right). That was my point -- OSU and Texas are going to be good this year, regardless of whether either is as good as they've been recently. Third, Michigan lost by 14 to USC in Los Angeles. That's not a "royal beatdown." USC rarely loses. Obviously Michigan stinks this year, but last year's loss to USC is wholly understandable. Finally, maybe the Big 12 is better. It's hard to tell at this point, but the Big 10 was not garbage last year and OSU being worse than last year doesn't exclude them from being good this year. My main point about Ohio State was that they are overrated this year and aren't the 12th best team in the country. They aren't that good. I realize that because they were better last year doesn't mean they're not a good team this year. I just don't think they're a very good football team. Did you watch the Michigan-USC game? USC demolished them in the second half. Michigan couldn't get a pass rush on Booty if their lives depended on it. Also, Michigan got a garbage time touchdown in the fourth quarter that made that game closer than it was. USC was, far and away, the better team on the field that day. Maybe I overstated the Big 11 being garbage last year. But that's only because its garbage this year and the Big 11 last year was clearly better than it is this year.

I agree with your second paragraph. However, Wisconsin certainly was good last year. They lost one game, and won a bowl game against Auburn -- the only team to beat National Champion Florida. I'm not arguing they're a top-5 team, but they certainly are a good team. *Also, Wisconsin isn't very good, yet they're one of the top-20 teams in the country? Are you saying there are only like 10 good teams each year? I agree with his second paragraph as well. There's no way I could possibly argue that the ACC is better than any one of the other five BCS conferences.

The Big 12 is better than the Big 11. wrong The Big 11 was garbage last year and, sans Wisconsin, is garbage this year. Wisconsin - good Michigan - sucks OSU - nowhere near as good as last year and probably overrated Indiana - garbage Illinois - too young right now Penn State - offense is not good at all Minnesota - HAHAHA, yeah Iowa - not very good Purdue - no defense Northwestern - even more "HA's" than Minnesota Michigan State - the best thing about them is John L is gone The Big 11 is not a very good conference. Don't get me wrong, the Big 12 isn't that good either, but at least they have Oklahoma. Big Ten teams finished last season ranked Nos. 2, 7, 8 and 24 in the AP Poll and 2, 5, 9 and 25 in the USA Today Poll. That is certainly not "garbage." The mighty Big 12 finished 11 and 13 in each. Your rundown of the Big 10 is laughable as well. One could easily make ridiculous claims and pick out weaknesses of every Big 12 team (perhaps sans Oklahoma). Ohio State was better last year? Really, you think? Well then, Texas isn't good because they aren't as good as they were two years ago. (That said, OSU probably is overrated) Penn State's offense isn't great, but they have quality pieces -- especially at WR. Iowa is a solid team. Oklahoma is likely the best team in either conference. But the Big 10 is better overall. Ohio State team got demolished in the National Championship game and was not the second best team in the country (LSU and USC were, without a doubt, better). Michigan got a royal beatdown at the hands of USC and are clearly not a very good football team. Wisconsin is a good team and the best in the conference but that isn't really saying much. They only lead Washington State by 7 going into the fourth quarter last week and are only up 9-7 on UNLV at halftime this year. But I underrated them last year and they proved me wrong. Plus they have nearly all of their starters coming back so I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt until. You obviously missed my point about OSU being overrated this year. 12th best team in the country? Not a chance. And your analogy to Texas is laughable. OSU lost a hell of a lot more than Texas from last year to this year. Iowa struggled to beat NIU last week. They are not that good of a football team. I've seen enough of Anthony Morelli to know that he's not a very good quarterback. And I don't care how good your receivers are, if your QB can't get them the ball, they aren't going to look very good. Just look at Calvin Johnson with Reggie Ball last year. And Penn State's WR's don't even deserve to wash Johnson's uniform. Also, why are you using the results of last year's poll to compare the Big 12 and Big 11? While I did say that the Big 11 was garbage last year, I only said that THIS YEAR they are worse than the Big 12.

Virginia Tech has 40 yards of offense against LSU midway through the third quarter.

Thank you Stephen Drew.

I just found out I won't be able to watch this match live as I'll either be covering the River Cats Game 5 if they win tonight or, if they lose, the UCD men's soccer match against Portland. Both are a 1 p.m. EDIT: And make that the River Cats game.

Hawaii is tied with Louisiana Tech at 38 with a few seconds to go.

The Pathetic Losers From Davis are, big surprise, losing again. Losers.

The Big 12 is better than the Big 11. wrong The Big 11 was garbage last year and, sans Wisconsin, is garbage this year. Wisconsin - good Michigan - sucks OSU - nowhere near as good as last year and probably overrated Indiana - garbage Illinois - too young right now Penn State - offense is not good at all Minnesota - HAHAHA, yeah Iowa - not very good Purdue - no defense Northwestern - even more "HA's" than Minnesota Michigan State - the best thing about them is John L is gone The Big 11 is not a very good conference. Don't get me wrong, the Big 12 isn't that good either, but at least they have Oklahoma.

The Big 12 is better than the Big 11.

They overturned the call, but there was a roughing the passer penalty, and a blatant one at that. i dont even think there was a flag thrown in the first place... if there was, i didn't see it. That Fresno State WR hasn't to be one of the stupidest men in the history of the world. JUST TUCK THE DAMN BALL, GO OUT OF BOUNDS, AND GIVE YOUR TEAM A FIRST AND GOAL AT THE ONE!! He cost Fresno the game today and that was inexcusable.