Greenberg and Theriot would not make us "a lot" better off, if any at all. They're marginal utility/backup prospects at best, and as bad as the list of clowns you mentioned have been, they're still probably a bit better overall. The fish will be better in 2 years because they're putting a lot of young talent on the field. Key word being talent. Murton and Cedeno are not quite the caliber of Hermida and Ramirez. We need to face the facts that we have seen the last of the "great" Cubs prospects for a while, except for Pie and possibly Guzman (the one who doesn't walk everyone). AAA is pretty desolate, and AA isn't looking a whole lot brighter. Greenberg/Theriot WOULDN'T make the Cubs any worse then they are now. The Marlins would be better, simply because they have people who knows baseball (not the owner, of course, but still) and does know the value of "The OBP." You're right Murton/Cedeno isn't i the class of Ramirez/Hermida, but Murton/Cedeno has a better chance of fulfilling their promise, whereas Hermida/Ramirez are a boom or bust type players. Considering where the Marlins play...I don't see Hermida or Ramirez showing their "full capaibilities" until they got to a pack that doesn't require a "rocket pack" just to get the ball to the OF. With that said....I'd still take Hermida/Ramirez over Murton/Cedeno anyday, but I do think Murton/Cedeno will be 2 very nice complementary players in the not-so-distant future.