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It'd also be a waste to spend a second rounder on a return man. If this was 2006.

since Ron Turner probably isnt doing the formal and/or funcion of drafting, I dont think we need to worry about it So the GM is going to ignore how his coaches coach when making decisions? Is he also going to ignore the Bears are primarily a cover-2 team that emphasizes speed over size? Angelo doesn't draft guys that don't fit what they need and can use. He might draft guys that ultimately suck, but they fit profiles. Maybe Ron Turner thinks he could implement a Wildcat offense and is trying to convince Angelo of it. Also, in the NFL coaches generally aren't that long term. You'll take the right player and replace the coach later if he can't utilize the player with a coach who can utilize him rather than pass up the opportunity for a good player because of your current coach. The exception would be if you have a strong system that has proven success. For instance you're not going to get a 4-3 DE when you run a 3-4. However, I don't necessarily see a strong system with our offense, so I'll take the right players, whether it was Pat White or anyone else. Our offense can change.

Ultimately I'm not sure I would call it a stupid idea, but it would certainly be risky as all hell. The problem for me is that there has been some success in the NFL with the Wildcat, but we have no idea if that will stay or if teams will figure it out. My gut would be to say that defenses figure out how to defend it and it doesn't expand more than a gimmick offense or a "trick play". However, I'm not willing to say that theres no chance that the Wildcat could be used more extensively and have long term, sustainable success. That 10% chance intrigues me as a fan of the game. Its the same reason I was interested in the A-11 offense in High School (before it died). It'd be exciting as a fan to see some innovation. That being said, its obviously risky and I'd feel nervous. Worst case scenario though is it fails, we suck, get a high pick, and clean house on management and coaching. Overall, as a fan I want to see more Wildcat, but I don't want to see my team be the one that failed miserably at it.

Hell yes to quick picks.

I don't know if anyone has said that. The RealGM guy has predicted the Bears to pick him, but I'm not sure under what idea. He may have made the pick with the understanding the Bears would try and use him as a full time QB. Who knows. I just asked the hypothetical if the Bears picked him with that intention how fans would feel.

Just noticed this part. The draft expert at RealGM is an insider, so his picks aren't solely what he sees as good picks but actually based on what teams are looking at. Now obviously he doesn't know what every team is thinking and even if he did he still will get things wrong, but it's possible he has mad this pick in the last two mocks because he knows the Bears are looking at him seriously.

Late 2nd I believe. He traded down and took Manning, then got Hester later. It wasn't really a reach, he was talented as heck and filled a need they had. White isn't 2nd round worthy and doesn't do anything the Bears can take advantage of, plus they have tons of other actual needs, not part-time QB. NO ONE thought that at the time. He didn't project as more than backup DB and return man, and I don't think anyone thought "6 TD return man". It was a reach at the time.

Lets look at the TE example: Desmond Clark's stats (Catches, Yards, TDs) 2003- 44, 443, 2 2004- 24, 282, 1 2005- 24, 229, 2 2006- 45, 626, 6 2007- 44, 545, 4 2008- 41, 367, 1 Drafted Olsen in 2007, after Clark had put up his best season. There were a lot of people who wanted TE, even a late rounder after '04 and '05. Now I still liked the Olsen pick at the time and still do, but seeing nothing in '04 and '05 was frustrating. Last year, sure he finally addressed the O-Line, after ignoring it for the past 5 years. After Columbo in 2002, the only OL pick higher than the 6th round was Beekman in the fourth round. Now the line was actually a strength for a couple years, but a lot of fans saw the need for some long term growth because it was also an old line. Daniel Manning, Charles Tillman, and Roosevelt Williams left a lot of people wondering. Then as you said, guys like Bauzin and Wolfe way earlier than they were slotted.

Small school players way too early mostly. Just a lot of WTF picks. Another great example is Hester. He was a second rounder, right?

You don't see it that way, but I don't think you're giving Angelo enough "credit" in his ability to do the unexpected.

I read a couple articles yesterday (can't find them now) where he is quoted as saying he'll do whatever he needs to help out his team. On his pro day I know he did almost exclusively QB drills, but I believe he ran a few routes at the end when asked to. As far as him dropping I disagree. Some risk taking GM for a good team that has the luxury of not having to fill multiple needs will take him in the mid second to third round. Angelo definitely likes risks (see all the small school players that he drafts early) so it wouldn't surprise me. Now the Bears don't fit the qualifier of not having multiple needs, but they may be able to trade down to pick up an extra 2/3 round pick and still fill the needs they have. But I think he ends up going in the second round, third round at the latest. Eric Crouch was a late third rounder and I think White projects better at him at QB or WR. Miami actually makes a lot of sense. They have an extra second rounder, are the innovators of the Wildcat, and are coming off a successful season. Not sure if they've shown any interest at this point.

I don't know. If the Bears picked White with the intent to run the Wildcat (say 20% of the plays, Miami ran it 12% as reference) I'd be intrigued. If they pick White though, I hope they trade down to pick up a another second or third rounder because White would be kind of a luxury and not filling any need. White and Forte (maybe even Wolfe at times) as your running attack, and Hester with the threat to go deep could work if its done right.

Hypothetical Scenario: How would you guys feel if the Bears selected Pat White in the second or third round to be used as a Wilcat QB, backup WR, and third string QB? Note: I personally can't see the Bears drafting White with the intention of regularly running a Wildcat formation. However, the draft expert at RealGM.com has had White as the Bears second round pick for the past few updates, so maybe there is something there. Or maybe the Bears just like him as strictly a QB?

I agree a high WR pick isn't likely to have an immediate impact. However, depending on the draft plays out, we can grab a high risk WR and still get an OT in round 2 who better fits our specific line needs. Let's just say the choices were: Rd 1- Britten Rd 2- Robiskie or BPA (and we'll assume this BPA isn't someone who was expected to go earlier and fits another need like Delmas at FS or Ayers at DE) or Rd 1- Maclin or Heyward-Bey, maybe trade down slightly for Nicks or Britt Rd 2- Loadholt Okay, so obviously we won't know who will actually be around in the second round, but you can take a calculated risk with relative certainty that a player will be available. But just looking at those two scenarios: Either Britten or Loadholt should be able to start. I think Loadholt fills our needs better. We lack size on the OL. Loadholt could anchor our run game in a way that Britten wouldn't. Britten is pretty similar to what Williams would offer. Loadholts contrast would make for a more well rounded line. At the WR spot neither is really likely to be an immediate starter, but the guys available in the first round sure have great potential to be impact players in the future. Again, I'll stress that when we make the first pick we won't know exactly whos going to be available, but when you have multiple needs you have to consider what may be there with your later picks. Maybe Oher drops, and in that case you go with him. Someone like Britten, I'm not so sure. You may take the risk with a WR or DE and hope Loadholt is around in round two. If Loadholts not around theres a good chance you can find a starting quality guard in the second or third round and Omilaye plays tackle, which he is capable of doing.

I don't think they are "dead set" on Hester as the #1 receiver. Although, even if they spend their first pick on a WR, he likely won't be a #1 receiver right away, so Hester becomes #1 by default. The only way we'd have a different #1 is if we did something like sign Tory Holt. And if they're confident that Williams is the LT, and are looking for a RT, they might rather wait until the second round for Loaholt, rather than take someone like Britton at 18. I think the Bears could go multiple directions with the first few picks. Sure they could go multiple directions. But OT always has been, and still is, the most obvious glaring need. Smith talked up Hester emerging and performing as a number 1 late last year. They've shown no interest in what has been a fairly large number of available free agent WR. They could take one in the first, but I seriously doubt it. The offensive line is a place where you need 5 starters and probably at least 2 capable fill-ins. You only need 2 starting receivers and maybe 3 in any game. They need lineman and they need them badly. Smith almost always supports his players, ie- "Rex Grossman is our QB". I would never put too much stock into that. It could just be posturing. Besides Jerry always surprises in drafts. How many years did we clamor for a TE before we got Olsen. He never goes with an obvious need, and he certainly isn't afraid to pick a later pick with the intent that they will be a main contributor or starter. We may still go OT in round 1, but it will depend on whats there. If Maclin falls and Britton is the best OT, does Jerry pass that up? I don't think so, he takes a WR and waits in round two for someone like Loadholt or a Guard. If some really good DE or DT was available I wouldn't put it past Jerry to take him even though its not our most pressing need. Even a DB I could see Jerry picking if the value was right. I think the odds are WR:35%, OT:35%, Other/BPA:30%. As far as your point about needing 5 lineman and 2 WR: We have 1 WR good enough to start. We have 3 lineman who started every game last year, a first rounder, and a guy we gave a pretty decent sized contract to. Which one looks more complete? Finally, I think its much more likely that we find a starting OL in the second vs. a starting WR in the second.

Based on poster's reactions, it seems like he's doing a pretty good job though.

I don't think they are "dead set" on Hester as the #1 receiver. Although, even if they spend their first pick on a WR, he likely won't be a #1 receiver right away, so Hester becomes #1 by default. The only way we'd have a different #1 is if we did something like sign Tory Holt. And if they're confident that Williams is the LT, and are looking for a RT, they might rather wait until the second round for Loaholt, rather than take someone like Britton at 18. I think the Bears could go multiple directions with the first few picks.

I think theres a good chance it will happen with a new owner on board. He wouldn't have the political BS past with Sammy. Plus they may wait until he is in the Hall.

The fact of the matter is that if they wanted to go with veterans they would have matched St. Clair's offer. Now that doesn't mean they'll hand the job away, but it will go to the best player.

Which almost ensures I won't take one with the Titans' pick. Well if you hadn't insisted on taking Barwin for the Fins, I would have left Robiskie for you! :)

I wonder, will they have a joint ceremony or will each player get his separate day?

I like Robiskie a lot more than most seem to. Eh I'm not crazy about him, but he looks like the best WR at this point. If I was really the Ravens I'd actually look for a short term fix at WR with someone like Holt and get some youth on the defense. Since I can't assume that's what they'll do though, I went with WR. Plus as I said Barwin was the guy I had targeted if I went defense.

Well, you made my decision easier. I think the Ravens will really focus on getting younger on defense, and I probably would have gone with Barwin. The other glaring need for the Ravens is WR. So, with the 25th pick in the second round the Baltimore Ravens select Brian Robiskie, WR, Ohio State http://www.nfldraftdog.com/images/Brian_Robiskie.jpg I PM'ed ELCABALLO

I might stop being a Cub fan that day. Why, Fotenot is awesome dude.

Just wondering why youd want Omilaye at Guard and not tackle? He supposedly has an enormous wing span which Id think you would rather have at a tackle position so he can get his hands on an edge rusher even if he is beaten. Well it depends on what they draft. If they went with a Guard over a tackle, Omilaye obviously has the flexibility to do either. So say we got Loadholt, Omilaye plays G. If we got Duke Robinson, Omilaye plays T. And I see the issue of having two inexperienced players at tackle a non-issue. There is good line depth in this draft so even a second round pick is likely going to be ready. Yea there might be some amount of growing pains, but if they're the best player, you go with them. They'll only get better by playing in game situations.