were jimmy and rose ever elite at the same time though? legitimately asking. rose hasn't been peak rose for a long time now. i think if enough of these guys continue to show promise the order is: try to package a few of them and picks for star #1, and hopefully that star is enough to attract star #2 via free agency. I was meaning Noah. Maybe using "elite" was too strong of a word with him. But, he was a great second piece, for trying to lure LeBron and Co. ah, ok. yeah, even his peak--when he was making all-star teams, winning DPOY, and had the offense kind of running through him--was after rose fell off. he was certainly an attractive piece when lebron and co. were out there, but yeah, 2 elite guys is probably overstating it a bit.