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  1. Soul
    Church would be preferable, as someone else said.
  2. Soul
    Ooooh, some *very* interesting little tid-bits in that one. Among other things. Ted Lilly thinks he wants to reverse the curse, huh? I think he's waiting for that Yankees offer, because after all, NY would be a preferrable destination to Chicago unless the money is more here.
  3. Soul
    confirmed by espn.com Who is this O'Brien character? He seems a little loose-lipped even for an agent. Coming right out in your face and just putting the offered numbers out there seems a bit forward to me. I don't think I've ever heard, for example, Scott Boras do that. It looks like espn.com is saying 40-44, the agent didn't appear to mention the numbers, at least in the quote. Oh yeah sorry my bad.
  4. Soul
    If the Yanks sign Pettitte I wonder if that will lessen their appetite for Lilly. If it's truly down to us & the Yanks (which I find hard to believe---there's always someone else lurking), I'd like to see the price drop a bit.
  5. Soul
    confirmed by espn.com Who is this O'Brien character? He seems a little loose-lipped even for an agent. Coming right out in your face and just putting the offered numbers out there seems a bit forward to me. I don't think I've ever heard, for example, Scott Boras do that. Anyway, I'm starting to think like vance. How much are these big bucks mediocre pitchers really going to help? Compare the risk of Gooz and Marshall not improving to Ted Lilly being as bad or worse than he was last year. Are we so sure Lilly is so much more likely to come through that he's worth $11 million? I know I'm not. Who knows? Maybe Marmol will gain control of his stuff. If he ever did, he'd make Ted Lilly look like a dead-end prospect.
  6. Soul
    I heard Schmidt drinks anyway.
  7. Soul
    I realize it's 100% speculation, but it sure looks to me like Schmidt took our 3/44 offer and went right back to the Dodgers & Mariners and asked for a bit more. And he got it.
  8. Soul
    The really sad thing is, mediocrity would be a massive improvement over last year. Schmidt's contract reveals everything. He got the 3/44 offer from the Cubs, then used it to get a bit more from LA. He was always going to stay on the West Coast, he just used Jimbo. Oh well, the price kept him away from St. Louis so that's not too bad.
  9. Soul
    Works for me Yup, if we got Schmidt, that completely changes my desire for Lilly. I'd bring him on as a 4th-5th starter if the rest of our rotation is Zambrano/Schmidt/Hill/Miller (or Prior) Gotten to the point where it's like the little boy who cried wolf. They keep saying it and saying it, but there's nothing actually happening.
  10. Soul
    Yep. Here comes the Cards, waiting to see who the Cubs want so they can swoop in and steal him out from under us. And probably and much less $$$$ too. Hendry needs to attend the Walt Joketty school on how to get players for less than their market value.
  11. Soul
    LOL, 5/55 for Lilly. $11mil/yr for basically what amounts to 12-12, assuming the team hits decently for him. You gotta wonder what's going to happen when the ever-fidgety Trib decides spending $160million was the wrong thing to do, and now they've got 5 or 6 long-term bloated contracts on the books.
  12. Soul
    OH, don't you bring your negative vibes in here, mandinga!! :wink:
  13. Soul
    All I'm saying is, some players, who really love where they play and want to stick around, are willing to act on more than just financial interest. Latest example of this would probably be Chris Carpenter. Drew's always moving from team to team for a guy with top-flight skills. Maybe it means nothing, maybe it does. carpenter? dude just got what equates to 50 mil over 3 years. I thought the deal was 5/65. There were a few people on the radio earlier saying he gave the Cards a home-town discount. In this market, $13mil/yr for a Cy Young is probably fairly cheap. That's why I singled Carpenter out.
  14. Soul
    All I'm saying is, some players, who really love where they play and want to stick around, are willing to act on more than just financial interest. Latest example of this would probably be Chris Carpenter. Drew's always moving from team to team for a guy with top-flight skills. Maybe it means nothing, maybe it does.
  15. Soul
    oooooh, they just had to throw that comment in there didn't they. someone at SI wants to fan some rumors that Schmitty isn't all he's cracked up to be.
  16. Soul
    Part of that is because of this year's playoffs. Mediocre pitching ruled. Next year it will be something else that gets a bounce. But Lilly can be more than a servicable 4 at his best. In his best seasons, he's been more than a servicable 4. In this market, if you make all your starts and are have at least average results, you will get paid. But that's partially because there are so few guys out there who make all their starts with average effectiveness and are free agents. Teams need 5 startings pitchers, and if guys get hurt, they need more. Hendry, coming off a year where they were starting guys who had no business on a 40 man roster, was desperate for people who could go close to 200 innings and be okay. But that's how Maddux was compensated the past two years. He was just a 200 IP guy who didn't suck, and he got $9m the last two years. MLB teams are willing to pay a premium to pitchers who make all their starts. In years past they've given huge deals to very talented guys who couldn't make all their starts. It's a constantly shifting market. I totally agree that durability was undervalued in starting pitchers for a long time and it was due for a price correction, but we're seeing way too big of a correction. I'm on board with that. Overreaction is the American Way.
  17. Soul
    Thats more likely, instead of gettting at least 1 good starter we are going to get 1 mediocre and 1 sucky and over pay for both. I know it. I'm getting that feeling when this whole thing is over Cub fans are going to feel like they've been punched in the gut.
  18. Soul
    I don't doubt him either. And I can imagine he had no idea it was going to happen, since everyone probably told him how "great" Cub fans are. Nice going bleacher bums.
  19. Soul
    That's $14mil/yr. Just $3mil less than Soriano. If he stays healthy, he'll be great. I still wonder why it always seems JD Drew is trying to get away from the team he is currently playing for.
  20. Soul
    28 years old and approx. 550 ABs? That's odd.
  21. Soul
    Nope. It's all still just talk.
  22. Soul
    I'll believe both when I see them. I think there's a decent chance we don't end up with either of them. Yeap. This is all very typical of the first couple days of winter meetings. To be fair to the media though, they are basically down there to uncover and report any bit of info they can. It's really a "listener beware" situation-----there's an expectation that everything needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
  23. Soul
    Do you have the quote? The is a strong distinction between saying "he will be traded" and "we'll explore our options". The 'desperation' associated with trading Jones should be attributed 100% to reporters unless someone can put up an exact quote from Hendry demonstrating otherwise. I'd have a tough time describing the Jones situation as desperate on day 2 of the winter meetings, in any event. Or really anything close. Desperate is being 2 games up in the division and watching your #1 starter blow out his arm 1 week before the trading deadline.
  24. Soul
    I'll believe Schmidt when I see it. That one's too much of a roller coaster to jump on right now.
  25. Soul
    Everyone was hoping he wouldn't come back.
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