So seeing significant playing time is indicative of how good a player is or proof that they've been a good draft pick? That my friend, is nonsense. Chris Williams is a below average guard and has had one small stretch of decent play before getting hurt. Chris Williams was the only above average lineman the Bears had this year. Everything you've said the last two pages is nonsense. yeah my recollection was that he was at least adequate at tackle. the virus seems to not realize that there is quite a bit of value in a young player in his rookie contract playing average football. like i said, one can express disappointment at angelo's drafts without saying that everyone he's drafted in the past 5 years is worthless. and i shouldn't have to list names (thanks to sneaky for doing that though) to avoid being accused of trolling - if anyone is trolling it's the guy who's throwing out inane statements with no basis in reality. The point of my initial post, was to really hammer home on how JA hasn't drafted a blue chip player in many years. I'm fine with young players playing average, but sadly that is all we are seeing with his drafts are just plain average players. The point being average is the status quo with the current administration. I don't get how Matt Forte, who was leading the NFL in yards from scrimmage until recently despite playing with a terrible offensive line, is average. Or Devin Hester, who is on a track to become a Hall of Famer albeit at a specialized position, is considered average. The weird thing is that almost everyone who is arguing against you thinks that Jerry Angelo has had a bad track record in his last several drafts, but take issue with the statement that he has drafted literally 0 good players. Even the blind squirrel finds the nut sometimes. I am disappointed with Angelo's drafting because it was somewhat promising after the 2003 draft where we drafted Grossman, Tillman, Briggs, Todd Johnson, Ian Scott and Justin Gage (of course his first 1st round pick was a spectacular bust). That one draft alone supplied 5 starters for the Super Bowl Bears. Then in 2004, the first 3 picks were pretty good (Tommie Harris, Tank Johnson and Berrian). Now we're at 8 starters for a super bowl team in 2 drafts. The rest of the draft consisted of a bunch of unknowns, and from that point on the drafts got progressively worse. He does seem to do OK with 2nd and 3rd round picks and once in awhile he will find a steal in the later rounds, but for the most part he's struggled everywhere else.