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Leave it Frolik to miss point blank with ample time to prepare for a shot twice in 10 seconds

Great, lets see what Shanahan's little injury barometer handles a situation where the player was paralyzed

Like I said earlier, Shanahan pointed out 3 things when addressing Shaw's suspension: -Goalies are not fair game. Crashing into a goalie without reasonably trying to get out of the way is a serious offense -There were no injuries from the incident -There is no history of illegal hits for Shaw Also, punishment was given during the game in the form of a 5 minute major and game misconduct Now look at this hit -Torres intentionally lined up and left his feet to ram his shoulder into Hossa's head. Leaving your feet to make a hit almost always means it was intentional, and is clearly an extremely illegal action. -Hossa looks to be severely hurt and was carried off the ice on a stretcher -Torres has consistently been known as a dirty player his entire career and has been suspended multiple times and been fined at least 4 times for illegal hits. He has been warned repeatedly about illegal hits. Also, no penalty was called on the play and Torres was allowed to continue to play the game. Also, if anyone is interested, Torres landed a very similar hit last year against Minnesota, and was suspended 2 games. The difference is that his victim was not hurt at all on the play, and it was 3-4 illegal hits ago. Here is Shanahan's explanation for that hit (along with video of the hit....very similar to what we just saw): http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=torres+suspended&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CC4QtwIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.nhl.com%2Fvideocenter%2Fconsole%3Fid%3D146713&ei=_ByOT4KzJcjgtge_7rDpCw&usg=AFQjCNHyJWKGmemSutLkJoGHtdNc4UFJ4w

SUCK IT COYOTES AND REFS

I love that for once we have we have an easy start to the season (relatively) Looks like a good schedule to me. I really like the Houston @ Chicago SNF game. Good time for the Hawks to get their first ever win over the franchise

Based on what Shaws suspension is Torres should be out for the playoffs. That was a vicious, without a doubt intentional, premeditated retaliation. There are going to be a lot of [expletive] insanely mad Hawks fans if he doesnt get a severe suspension.

SWEET A POWER PLAY FOR PHOENIX SOUNDS FAIR

If this isn't a worse suspension than Shaw's, I'm done with this league. Smith gets hit and misses no time and shaw gets 3 games, a 5 minute major and a game misconduct Hossa gets knocked to the ground and carred out on a stretcher, in an obvious retalitory hit

I mean holy [expletive] this is insane. How does he not get a [expletive] penalty on this?!!?!? This is a [expletive] outrage. I can't believe this.

It better be way more than 3 games, he didnt even get a penalty or ejected. AND THE REF IS SITTING RIGHT THERE LOOKING AT THEM

Great, Hossa took out of a stretcher. That's not acting. Yeah way to retaliate you douchebags

Torres is such a [expletive] douche, I hate him. He left his feet to slam Hossa. Of course that will probably be a fine despite it clearly being a suspensable offense. Hossa looks very very hurt

Oh great, there's the retaliation, and Hossa is going to be hurt. no penalty of course.

I don't know how the Coyotes were 2nd to last in the league in PP%, they've looked pretty good at times this series. Maybe that says more about the Hawks PK though.

I bet somehow Shannahan finds a way to pin that on a Hawk and suspend him.

I heard on the radio that he can, but he's not allowed to play before the appeal is heard. Somebody was talking about appealing these on a NY station yesterday and the statement was made that the NHL may make life difficult for you if you try. what the hell kind of league is this anyway. How can they do that? Are they going to say "we reviewed the incident at your request and decided you actually will be suspended 10 games instead of 3?" How else would they "make his life hell"? The only thing I can think of is being harsher on future illegal hits

Damn, when I read the thread title, I would have bet all my money that it had to do with blisters.

This is [expletive] incredible. It's like Shannahan completely lost focus on how and why the NHL hands out suspensions in the first place. Why should external factors and previous unrelated incidents have anything to do with Shaw's incident. If that is true, Shannahan should be fired immediately from his job. It is insanely illogical to punish Shaw and the Blackhawks because you fucked up a previous incident that had nothing to do with them. Unreal. And the video meant to explain the decision provides no insight into why the suspension is for 3 games, and in fact makes the suspension more questionable. He points out 3 main points: Charging a goalie without reasonably trying to get out of the way is not allowed, there was no injury involved, and Shaw has no history of illegal hits in his past. I think he even admits that it was probably not malicious intent. So that was your basis for a 3 game suspension? Shea Weber has made a career out of illegal hits, and maliciously grabbed a player in the back of the head and (in the concussion worry era) slamed his head into the glass and gets nothing. Can Shaw appeal this?

this is just a silly statement on about 92 levels get lost, seriously. NewUserName is cool. He posts in here all the time and is always respectful and most of the time very level headed about the Blackhawks and Red Wings. He's as much of a thread regular as any of the Blackhawks fans that post in here. He doesn't need to get lost.

this is just a silly statement on about 92 levels Obviously that is frustration talking. I think you know me well enough to know I don't believe Shannahan was thinking 'alright! a blackhawk fucked up time to screw my old rivals over'. I do think that actually comes down harder on the Wings just to prove he's not favoring them, as evidence by the 8 game suspension due to a preseason incident and the Weber decision.

I would check the Coyotes board, but they probably don't even have one. On their SB Nation Blog entitled....*snicker*...Five for Howling, they have a poll asking whether the suspension is appropriate. Here are the results: 58% - Too many games 29% - The injury question should be completely left out of the equation and until that happens its all a joke 9% - Yes, it was appropriate 1% - Too few games

Also, did they even take into consideration that Shaw was given a 5 minute major, which directly led into what was almost the game winning goal for Phoenix, and a game misconduct? So the full punishment for making contact with the goalie and having the goalie milk it for 3 days: 3.5 game suspension, 5 minutes of power play to Phoenix and 1 goal scored Full punishment of Shea Weber for grabbing a player by the back of the head and bashing his face into the glass: $2,500 fine, 0 suspension, 0 power play minutes for Detroit (he got a 2 minute minor but it happened after the game ended)

At least we probably don't have to worry about Crawford's health tonight. But Toews might want to keep himself away from the glass tonight so he doesn't become victim to the more traditional and accepted form of retaliation - slamming the opponent's face into the glass repeatedly.

The former Red Wing gives the Hawks player a ridiculously unfair punishment. I guess he's trying to make it up to Wings fans for not suspending Weber. Shaws a nice player but I don't think the suspension will necessarily hurt us, its just a ridiculously stupid punishment. If anyone who saw that really thought Smith was almost on his deathbed on the ice you are a moron. I wouldnt have thought much of 1 game, because I understand the need to protect the goalie or whatever, but 3 games is ludicrous.

Rose about MJ: His GQ article (written by Leitch) was an interesting read. A little depressing too as Rose talks about how much his fame sucks for a low key person like himself, and how Chicago apparently can't handle celebrities walking around town.