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man our outfield blows. Almora probably didn't have a chance but that was a terrible throw

What the horsefeathers was that Heyward?

Of course it comes back to hurt us

Yes I've missed having a star with knee issues

Apparently this dude started as a WALK ON at this imaginary Kutztown. Obviously this doesn't mean much but that's kind of crazy...walk on at a fake school to NFL Draft Pick

We are all set, we drafted guys from Ashland, NC A&T and Kutztown (??!!?)

Nope same joyless talentless depressing Bulls. What's changed is that we no longer have to watch them play basketball for awhile.

How much more slightly over .500 ball until Kyle starts taking subtle shots at Theo?

Yeah it's too bad the Cubs and Red Sox ruined it by trying to play a baseball game

Reports of Zo's demise were greatly exaggerated

If the Bears wanted a TE, I would have gone with Butt, torn ACL and all.

Don't worry, Happ will headline a package for a starter at the deadline

I would like our starters to pitch a clean first inning once in awhile.

bite your tongue

Would have been cool if just for this series they put the lineup on a Green Monster graphic.

Pretty cheesy video, but he better really have been number 1 on all those guys boards to do that trade. Yes but they all said number 1 QB on the board, not necessarily number 1 (or 2) guy on the board. Leads me to believe they were QB or bust in the 1st round which is exactly the type of drafting philosophy Pace has spent 3 years telling us he avoids.

if Pace though that Trubisky is simply a pro-caliber starting QB, then it doesn't make sense. But if Pace thinks Trubisky is a franchise QB, then it absolutely makes sense. Additionally, it's not about calling bluffs. Pace didn't tip his hand as to who he was targeting, and most of the smoke was from the defensive side of the ball. The analysts were sure he traded up for Thomas, no mention of Trubisky at all. Pace was keeping quiet. So, did Pace just play a hunch that someone was trying to trade up for Trubisky? Did he operate based on rumor? or maybe, just maybe, did Cleveland/Houston/KC call him on the day of the draft or somewhere thereabouts, and inquire about a trade? I'm sure he got a call from someone and figured that they'd be calling the Niners, this was not the Niners lying. I don't get the idea that it's too accepted to lie to other teams about offers, anyway. One can simply go to the source, find out your trade partner was lying and then that team's GM is branded as a liar and nobody wants to do business with him. Yes if Pace thinks he's an all pro QB in the making then he did the right thing but even the best NFL scout cannot fully predict how QBs will turn out. So even if he's confident its the right pick it still might prove to be a big bust. All I'm saying is that if you don't make the deal and there was another team trying to get that pick, there's a decent chance that SF likes Thomas enough to not pull the trigger with a team like the Browns who have the 12th pick. If SF makes their pick then the Bears get Trubisky and keep the rest of their picks. If they do trade to Browns, then you still have a QB in place for the next few years and can either pick one later in the draft or next year. Not ideal, but neither is giving up 3 mid-round picks over the next 2 years when there was probably at least a decent chance that the guy you want is still there.

I keep flip flopping my opinion on this deal after reading all the takes. I think overall I am slightly down on the move and here is why: This was all about calling the 49ers bluff. Maybe the Browns were really ready to deal, maybe they weren't. If you call SF's bluff and Cleveland really does have a strong offer on the table, the 49ers will lose the guy they supposedly really wanted in Solomon Thomas by moving down to 12. So maybe SF doesn't accept the Browns deal and takes Thomas. For the Bears, if the Browns trade up and take Trubisky, oh well you still have 7 draft picks to fill the many holes this team still has, you still have a potentially decent starting QB in Glennon the next few years (who will be starting next year anyways). People are saying Trubisky is partially self-preservation for Pace because he won't start next year and might not start the year after, but I'm not sure you can keep Pace employed long enough to see how he pans out if this draft nets us no immediate impact talent, and now we have less bullets to get that talent. I do like Trubisky as a player, I think he has the tools and has a high enough floor that he is probably going to end up no worse than an average starting QB. But I'm just not sure it was worth trading all those picks when there was a decent chance they could have gotten him at 3 and kept all their picks. I guess if Jacksonville was also involved it makes a little more sense for Pace to pull the trigger because Thomas might have fallen to 4.

Eagles moved up 6 spots, Bears just 1. Wentz is also probably the more highly regarded prospect? Yeah moved up more spots but gave up a future 1st and 2nd while the Bears only gave up a future 3rd (in addition to both teams giving up a 3rd and 4th in same draft). Not sure what the points system says about it but sure seems like the Eagles gave up more. The caliber of the pick isn't what I'm arguing just what was given up for it

Also while it was a lot to give up for the #2 pick, the Eagles actually gave up more for the same pick a season ago (1-8 plus 3rd and 4th in 2016, 1-12 in 2017, 2nd rounder in 2018)

Can anyone guess the best QB that Loggains has had a part in developing?

This logic is bad. Good NFL prospect and good college QB (especially in a spread scheme) is not close to comparable. Hell, maybe the best QB in NFL history couldn't beat out Brian Griese in college. Sure, if you use the outlier rather than the vast vast majority of successful NFL QB's, your logic is sound JFC just stop derwooding

Obviously if he ends up a franchise QB we are all thrilled with the trade. Pace is staking his Bears career to this move so I guess how much you like the move depends on how much you trust Pace.

How much can we save by cutting a Mark Sanchez