Cubswin11

I kind of agree, but Jensen is 22 and just finished A ball. Rondon was in AAA at 21 and put up decent numbers 74IP, 7.7K/9, 1.6BB/9, 1HR/9, next season he appears to have gotten hurt, under 40 IP and numbers sucked. Mcnutt was in A at about 2 years younger than Jensen and put up even better numbers than him there, 59IP, 0HR, 10.6K/9, 3.6BB/9, Zych was in A+/AA at 21, year younger than Jensen, this past year and put up better numbers as well 9.4k/9, 2.8bb/9, .1hr/9. So I think his ranking is right, all those have had success at higher levels while being younger than Jensen.

I think that would be mine also if I had to pick now.

How the [expletive] did Theriot walk 73 times in 2008?

There's so much wrong with that card, LOL

Real solid move for them. It's too bad the Conley/Mayo/Gay/Z-BO/Gasol starting lineup could never quite gel/stay healthy together to make a run for a few years.

Jensen Martin McNeil

Gay to the Raptors Ed Davis + Calderon to the Grizz Calderon to a "mystery"/3rd team parts of that going to the Grizz

LOL

http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/8897736/derrick-rose-chicago-bulls-taking-full-contact-practice

The Rooftop Owners and Landmarks Commission can [expletive] off

Cubs CF in 2008: .290/.374/.484, 3rd best OPS in MLB for CF, #1 OBP PURE SEX

Yeah, there's no real way to justify that ranking. I'm thinking Callis is paying way too much attention to that cup of coffee. I'm much more comfortable with trusting NSBB's top 30 list than I am BA at this point. Take a step back for a moment. I think Vitters should be a few notches higher, inside the top 20 ... but ... The comments seem to suggest that .275/20 HR is perhaps on the high end of projections for him (may be reading too much into a snippet, but it sounds that way). If that's the high end ... how much value is that? A corner IF (and let's face it, as much as I've defended his glovework at 3rd as passable if the bat played, he really shouldn't be there in an ideal situation) without high average ability and without plus power is ... not that useful, particularly if he has to go to first. If that's the high end, and he ends up being consistently less than that ... then ... 25 might be high. Again, I'm not saying I buy the projections, but if that's what they are hearing on the high end, I can understand the ranking. I think they were a bit harsh on some guys (Vitters/Torreyes come to mind) and a bit generous on some (SNTS/pedigree on Blackburn still has me scratching my head at that high a spot ... surprised on some of the back end guys ... actually fairly surprised that Hatley got a mention, along with Golden at 31, and of course, Loux/Loosen/Castillo are all guys where I could probably find other guys and make competitive arguments that they could be swapped out ... think they went high on pen arms) ... but I don't know if Vitters at 25 is something that really makes me aghast at their rankings. I think he should be higher, but ceiling only counts for so much at a certain point, and if the expectations they are hearing aren't that great ... well, I can understand it somewhat. Now, getting back to Vitters, the question is, do any of us expect him to be consistently more than a .275ish average and 20 HR's guy if all went well? If so, then there's a clear case for him to be higher. The power seems a tick higher than I am really expecting as a positive case right now. Average ... I could see him a tick higher perhaps. .275ish would have been good for 10th in all of MLB last year for 3B that qualified, 20HR would have tied him for 9th in MLB. If scouts think he's capable of that, after the AAA season he had, he should be much higher. .275ish with 20ish HR would make for a very valuable 3B even with below average defense as most of the league is struggling to find even replacement level production at 3B. So yes he should be higher.

Heh heh. I like Torreyes too, but he should hit over .711-OPS before we can fuss much. One-toolers need to hit first before expecting much buzz. On Vitters, "Some scouts inside and outside organization feel comfortable projecting a .275/20 HR hitter. Brings little intensity to ballpark. Destroys left handers .331/.377/.625. Fielding is only adequate at best." Oh, okay then, it all makes sense and is justifiable now.........

The Yankees are looking at ways to void Arod's contract, but they can't make any decisions until MLB's "official investigation" into the matter is done.

Soooooooooo, allegedly, Ray Lewis took/received deer antler-velvet extract from a male stripper (no seriously) to recover from his tricep injury and it's a banned substance, SI claims. Someone from something called S.W.A.T.S. says they have the phone call recorded of him asking how to use it/asking for the dude to send it to him. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/29/ray-lewis-may-have-used-banned-substance-to-recover-from-torn-triceps/

He'd end up on the Dodgers if he's made a FA/traded

When can we shut this down and move to 29? We are at 70 total votes, 27 had 71 and 26 got into the 80's so we are around the total votes of the last 2 rounds.

Gio Gonzaelz and Nelson Cruz linked as clients to a clinic in Florida that has records of selling PED's. http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/8893139/report-alex-rodriguez-others-listed-clinic-ped-lists

Gruden doesn't come cheap

Yeah, I feel like Torreyes, Watkins and Rondon were the most surprising omissions. Watkins was 19

I don't know, he has a higher ceiling than all of the position players in front of him that aren't in the top 10 (except maybe Lake if he can stick at SS) and he's had more success while age appropriate/young at every level in minors than everyone in front of him (except maybe Villanueva).

Leave it to Clown Kenney to have our baseball operations offices spread out between multiple buildings.

I'd guess the lack of 5 year offers has more to do with his age (30) and that a large chunk of his value is tied to, two things that teams don't typically pay a lot for and/or still aren't quite sure how well they age (speed/defense) and not so much the draft pick tied to him.

Gonna have to dust off Pierce's wheelchair

Rondo has a torn ACL. Wonder if this makes a Pierce/KG trade more likely, they certainly aren't going to win without him, would be a good chance to bottom out a bit this year, get some cap space/younger players in a trade and a higherish draft pick.