2 of them. Which is why I used 20 years instead of 30. But even if we go 30, the fact that the Cubs have had six playoff appearances spread out over that time frame, while the Pirates have had just about nothing to show up to the ballpark to see for 20 consecutive years has to have some bearing. I mean even if you take out the Cubs' playoff appearances since 1992, at least there was a few seasons of Sammy mashing to watch. It's been 20 years of baseball desolation in Pittsburgh. I get that, but I was replying to illini's comment. I couldn't tell if he was talking about 20 years or 30 years. Anywho, the point stands from whoever said it, there are teams fan bases that have had it worse. Although that doesn't really help anything.