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Neither do I. He didn't have this magic touch. The Cubs invested heavily in young pitching starting in the mid-90's and it paid off in the Rothschild era. He played a role, but he didn't turn a bunch of nobodies into stars. -
And for a guy who might not be better than other players on the roster.
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Hello Denver.
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For only the last two years, while one guy was pitching in the AL East and the other guy was in the NL Central.
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He turns 29 next summer. He is who he is and I really don't see much hope for a rebound. And what reason do we have to believe that Garza will be much better than Wells from here on out? He hasn't been to this point. Because he's younger and has already accomplished more, plus has better stuff.
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Which also means we have a much less clear idea of exactly how good Wells will be. He's already been a lot better than many people thought he would be, while Garza hasn't turned the corner yet despite better stuff than Wells. I don't see any reason to pay Garza $5+ million when we have Wells for significantly cheaper. Garza hasn't been significantly better than Wells. Garza has a significantly better resume and is 15 months younger.
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The idea of prospects has been thrown around - such as Carpenter, McNutt, Vitters, etc. I wasn't responding just to your Wells/Garza deal, but to deals that include young talent in general. And Wells has been very similar statistically to Garza, if not slightly better plus he's a whole lot cheaper. They have similar peripherals and Wells has a better career xFIP. I don't see what gives Garza a clear, statistical advantage. Your whole post was about Wells and Garza so I'm not sure why I would think you were referring to other young talent.
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He turns 29 next summer. He is who he is and I really don't see much hope for a rebound.
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http://deadspin.com/5709384/the-day-william-rhoden-published-the-wrong-column-about-the-retrograding-patriots
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Young? Garza is younger and more talented.
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Who cares about Wells' stuff? What do you see in his makeup that suggests that he will start giving up walks or allowing HRs? His K's aren't impressive, but they could go down (i. e. decreases FB velocity) and he'd still be effective. Garza apparently has really good stuff but doesn't locate it well. Location is probably Wells' best asset and one doesn't lose it with age. What does his makeup have to do with it? Wells got worse this season. His numbers aren't impressive and neither is his stuff. He also has a fairly minimal track record.
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Wells is more than a year older with a lesser resume.
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I still don't understand how people are claiming that was a horrible call. -
That is a big chunk, but not a big time frame.
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A lot of people keep saying this, but I'm not sure that it's an accurate statement. While he may see a slight improvement in his overall numbers, it's not like he's going to turn into Roy Halladay. Garza would probably be better off in the NL West, where the ballparks tend to be more favorable to fly-ball pitchers. It's also not like people are pretending he is going to turn into Roy Halladay. See my last post. Expecting improvement is one thing. Expecting him to "excel" is another, unless you consider a slight improvement from his current performance as "excelling". Excel is kind of vague, but maybe it's aggressive. Most people are talking about improvement. Opponents hit .248/.308/.420 off Garza last year for an OPS against of 728. The Yankees and Red Sox hit .314/.363/.629 and .286/.360/.511, respectively off of him for OPS of 991 and 871. That represented 30% of his games.
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A lot of people keep saying this, but I'm not sure that it's an accurate statement. While he may see a slight improvement in his overall numbers, it's not like he's going to turn into Roy Halladay. Garza would probably be better off in the NL West, where the ballparks tend to be more favorable to fly-ball pitchers. It's also not like people are pretending he is going to turn into Roy Halladay.
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Wish the Cardinals signed him.
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Average is a lot less than just not everything.
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I don't see why they wouldn't be interested in a non-arb pitcher who should be decent this year. He's a cheaper replacement. If what they want is a haul of prospects then screw that.
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He definitely did. He was also 23. Randy Wells was 27/28 this year and he was rocked for 5 or more runs on 9 occasions this season. Garza did it 7 times this year with three straight bad ones against Boston and the Yankees in September.
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I wouldn't go past Wells alone. And it's not like I'd jump to do it either.
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I might just switch to full onboard 100% happy with this deal just because of statements like this.
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Garza is more than a year younger with more impressive career numbers to me.
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Not if payroll keeps going up. Payroll only goes up because we keep spending more on an annual basis on players, not because of backloading contracts. The only issue comes up if a player doesn't want balloon payments. Payroll goes up when a team is willing to spend more on players. That should act as a benefit to a team when opposition isn't able to increase at the same rate, but when the increased payroll is offset by the fact that you are just paying for what a guy gave you a year or more earlier, it is negated. When payroll declines you are screwed.
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Not if payroll keeps going up.
