Dawson, no question. Santo, it's a little fuzzier there. I'm a big proponent of comparing players to others that have played their given position. If a guy is one of the ten best 1B, 2B, etc., he belongs in. Looking at 1B, Gehrig and Foxx were unquestionably better than Bagwell. The next tier would have to be McGwire, Bagwell, Greenberg (better player, but shorter career), Johnny Mize, Eddie Murray, Killebrew, Cap Anson, McCovey and Frank Thomas. Ignoring the whole steroid business, I'd probably rank them as: 1. Gehrig 2. Foxx 3. Greenberg (I think guys should be given credit when they missed some of their prime years due to the war - not penalized for this) 4. McGwire 5. Mize 6. Bagwell 7. Thomas 8. Killebrew 9. Murray 10. McCovey whereas 3B I would go: 1. Schmidt 2. Eddie Mathews 3. George Brett 4. Boggs 5. Santo 6. Home Run Baker 7. Molitor 8. Brooks Robinson 9. Stan Hack 10. Rolen So even though Bagwell was clearly the better hitter, I'd call him and Santo about even based on where they rank at their respective positions. I agree with your criteria, and by using it both Bagwell and Santo not only should be in the HOF, but probably 1st ballot HOFers. We all know how that turned out for Santo.