Thanks for the breaking news. good job missing the point. what game are you watching anyway? If you don't enjoy the statistical evaluation why do you assume no one else does? If you don't want to read it, don't. I don't read anything baseball### posts because his opinion doesn't interest me. I suggest you and he do the same with posts you aren't interested in instead of retorting with sarcasm. Just because you don't want to follow logical and mathematical arguments doesn't mean you need to denigrate the posters or act as if you are sooo put out by having to read them. It seems that you're the one who missed the point. My point, at least. I'm not saying that I'm anti-stats, or whatever. Stats are a great way to tell a lot about a player. What bothers me is when people use stats, and only stats, to evaluate a player. Statistics are great, but I have no interest in looking at a stat that takes 10 pages of paper to compute. Does that make me ignorant to these "new age" stats? You bet it does, and I'm completely fine with that, as I don't need all those to evaluate a player. And I never acted as if I was put out by reading anyone's posts, so you can cancel that little theory. I learn a lot on this site. It's just that some people seem like they'd rather study a stat book than watch an actual baseball game. And I don't have a particular person in mind when I say that, so if you're reading this and happen to think that I'm talking about you... I'm not. Your basic point is one that I've brought up a few times and gotten jumped on for mentioning it. It seems like any player mentioned brings out 3 pages of stats comparing him to some other player and pointing out how great (or lousy) he is by using statistics that were invented in the last 10 years. Somehow I grew up watching Clemente, Aaron, Banks, Mantle, Mays, etc. without knowing what VORP, Isod, etc. meant, but I knew they were great players by watching them.