(well, starlin does dumb [expletive] often enough that the criticisms are pretty valid) that said, completely unrelated to starlin and aramis, but defense matters too, now. you might've missed the memo. i got it like 4 years ago. I very much agree, and didn't want to give the impression I don't think defense matters. I still don't know what defensive stats to really trust though, and I know we've come a long way but there's still wildly different results that come in from BR to Fangraphs to this day. If you (or anyone else really) has dependable stuff to look at I'm eager to read up on them! Aramis was graded at bad, average, or solidly above average between various stats and scouts.