Sammy Sofa

A 4.02 ERA and a 1.35 WHIP is "damn above average"? I get that in 2003, the kid was just dominant. In 2005, he was pretty good as well. 2004 might count as decent, though a #2 pitcher racking up those numbers in less than 120 IP hardly counts as "damn above average." Hell, if you're gonna trumpet Prior's good years, you're much better off pointing out 2002 than you are pointing out 2004. I'd happily take Prior at what he'll likely make for those 2004 numbers over guys like Marquis or Dempster. And the end of the 2004 season he was clearly back on track. Besides, he was making peanuts. Rating him as a "#2" starter is ultimately meaningless. If he was being paid to be one, alright, fine...but he was being paid a tiny sum in MLB terms. Yeah, you would. You'd pay him $2 million, hoping that once he finally is able to pitch again in July that somehow, magically, after not pitching in almost two years that he'll duplicate what he did FOUR YEARS AGO. Only a Cubs fan could even dream something like this up.... Really? For a pitcher as young as he is, with a ceiling as high as his and as much money as this organization has, that's nothing. I'm not looking for "magic" at all...I was hoping tha this club would be able to take a chance on an injured pitcher, as they have many times, for relatively little money, in the hope of some return. The upisde of tha with Prior, as opposed to others they've done it with (Dempster, Williamson, Miller, etc.) is that his ceiling is so high that even a Prior with reduced capability would be incredibly useful, especially at that price. Combine that wih him finally having surgery where something was determined to be wrong and ideally "fixed," it's not too much of a stretch to think he could have possibly been productive at some point in 2008, and cheap. Unfortunately, it appears something gummed up that idea. Please explain what is so fantastic about this. Few people were expecting him to come back and pitch like he did before 2004. But to talk like anything less is useless, especially at how little he would cost, is absurd.

Hahhahahaha, if somebody gritty and Texan said that he'd be a total team player, but since he's some Cal-eye-forn-eye-aaaaa pretty boy, he's not a team player. \ No...everybody would call him a Hillbilly. The funniest thing about this, is that 2008 will be his rehab year, and he prolly wont pitch more then 5 games, or pitch AT ALL. So with that being said, guessing he'll pitch in 2009.....he woulden't have pitched a complete full season in what...........6 YEARS!!! People are sad, that the Cubs aren't giving him a 2-3 year deal. Excuse me but.....hahahahaha. Hes gonna mooch in 2008, and in 2009 MAY have the health to actually pitch. Sorry, but with him mooching 1 year, and then not pitching a full complete season in 6 years.......GOODBYE! So was D-Lee a "mooch" in 2006? What specific time limit dtermines who is simply injured and who is a "mooch?" He becomes a mooch by thinking green and wanting a big deal with alot of money. He becomes a mooch by knowing that hes gonna sit out half a season, and rehab the other half, but still wanting more money elsewhere. I dont think he'll sign with the Padres. The Padres are a cheap franchise, and he could've gotten more money with us. I bet he ends up on a big market team willing to throw him bucks. This is a person that could've stayed a Chicago Cub, but thinks he can get money and years elsewhere. So, in short, you're going to completely guess or make everything up.

A 4.02 ERA and a 1.35 WHIP is "damn above average"? I get that in 2003, the kid was just dominant. In 2005, he was pretty good as well. 2004 might count as decent, though a #2 pitcher racking up those numbers in less than 120 IP hardly counts as "damn above average." Hell, if you're gonna trumpet Prior's good years, you're much better off pointing out 2002 than you are pointing out 2004. I'd happily take Prior at what he'll likely make for those 2004 numbers over guys like Marquis or Dempster. And the end of the 2004 season he was clearly back on track. Besides, he was making peanuts. Rating him as a "#2" starter is ultimately meaningless. If he was being paid to be one, alright, fine...but he was being paid a tiny sum in MLB terms.

Hahhahahaha, if somebody gritty and Texan said that he'd be a total team player, but since he's some Cal-eye-forn-eye-aaaaa pretty boy, he's not a team player. \ No...everybody would call him a Hillbilly. The funniest thing about this, is that 2008 will be his rehab year, and he prolly wont pitch more then 5 games, or pitch AT ALL. So with that being said, guessing he'll pitch in 2009.....he woulden't have pitched a complete full season in what...........6 YEARS!!! People are sad, that the Cubs aren't giving him a 2-3 year deal. Excuse me but.....hahahahaha. Hes gonna mooch in 2008, and in 2009 MAY have the health to actually pitch. Sorry, but with him mooching 1 year, and then not pitching a full complete season in 6 years.......GOODBYE! So was D-Lee a "mooch" in 2006? What specific time limit dtermines who is simply injured and who is a "mooch?"

Hells no. Plenty of people have boardnames involving players that no longer play for the Cubs.

2003 alone was worth $15 million.

Hendry's statements so far seem to imply that Fukudome is playing RF.

those statements are not true No kidding. Just this past season he was with them when they played in Arizona while he was rehabbing. He was also at some games in Chicago, too. And it wasn't just this year.

Yeah, boy, 3 years of doing nothing. He sure didn't pitch at all in 2004 or 2005. Oh, wait, he did. Quite a bit. And very well, too. Weird.

Murton really has value. I wish he would play here, but I get why they are dealing him. He'll likely be part of the package that lands Hendry Brian Roberts. I'd prefer him and Gallagher go toward landing us Blanton, and Pie and Hill and EPatt land us Roberts and Bedard, and Dempster and Marshall and Derosa land us Burnett. (Just listing some of the rumors in this thread!) Imagine, if you can... Zambrano Bedard Burnett Lilly Blanton :shock: =D> \:D/ :pig: :shock: :shock: That could theoretically work. Yeah, it could, though it would empty the farm, and would still leave us short two OF. (A CF and a 4th OF) But, heck, with that rotation, an NL Pennant would seem to be virtually assured. You have obviously forgotten that we have Sam Fuld. He can be the CF and the 4th OF at the same time. And Pagan and eventually Colvin.

Too bad it's not the old Tejada trade...Prior for Tejada and Bedard... :cry: Total fantasy. The O's wanted more than just Prior for Tejada alone.

I'm not seeing this reported anywhere...please, please, please, please, PLEASE not be true.

Thanks!

Why sell them? I'm still gonna wear my Prior jersey proudly. I was joking, but I dont know if I can wear them so soon. So many mixed memories, what could have been, what was... Its like losing a girlfriend you kinda liked, but she put out so you thought she was the greatest, but then you found out there were much better chicks out there who are far superior in bed. Yeah, I hear that. Man, this is depressing.

Jones was barely booed in the beginning...what there was was mostly because of the negative perception of his signing, I think he had a very slow start and the hideous throws. Then he complaned about what little booing there was and compounded it with the series of moronic baserunning mistakes and it was all downhill from there. The biggest thing was complaning about the fans. It showed he was resisiting adjusting to playing in a place like Wrigley, and that immediately made it a "me vs. them" situation that almost no player can win. If he had come in with a better reputation before that, mybe he would have made it out...Lee's made comments about the booing and nobody turned on him...but to that quickly call out the fans was abad move. I highly doubt that will be the case with Fukudome.

Why sell them? I'm still gonna wear my Prior jersey proudly.

And so it ends but with a whimper. Sad, sad day.

Yeah, this can't really be compared with the Jones signing. That had a negative perception from day one, even with the more casual fans. I think a better comparison would be with Soriano...even when he went through his cold spots, he didn't get booed. Fukudome has a lot of excitement and positive perception going along with his deal, so I think it would really take him just completely flaming out into a disaster for him to get booed.

Theriot. Khalil Greene will start No offense to you in particular, but why is everyone so nuts about the average SS Khalil Green? Much better defensively, much more power, offensive numbers hampered by playing in the giant stadiums on the West Coast.

I know I've mentioned it many times, but Roberts only gives us more SBs over DeRo and that's it. The amount of prospects we would have to give up for him is not worth. It would be best for us to go a different direction. Yeah, I've definitely shifted over that way. He's just a lefty and steals more bases. Save the prospects for someone else and keep DeRo...go after Figgins or Greene.

Unless all of them have their beers on the ground between their feet, probably not.

I think more likely the wrench comes from the Orioles side. On one hand, it's been said that Andy needed to trade other guys before he could trade Roberts. On the other hand, once Angelos gives the OK for trading Tejada and Bedard, he can probably justify saying, okay, that's enough, we have to keep Roberts for PR reasons. Is Roberts that popular in Baltimore? Yes.

Random question...how can I saw or copy that little NL Champs logo on the Cubs' front page? Every time I try to save it or open it as a seperate image on its own page, it's bank.

OK, I know nothing about the guys the Astros traded...who is any good? That seems like a lot for Tejada.

It's very, very easy to idenitfy the differences between the people from the different regions/countries of Asia. I blame movies more than anything for making people think they're hard to tell apart, since they'll often, say, cast someone who is Thai as Chinese, or someone who is Japanese as Korean, etc., etc..