Andy

Not that it matters because Michigan would get picked over either one of them, but that would make the loser of the B1G title game eligible too, correct? Barring some sort of blowout, anyway.

Nice crapfest in Indy today, Carolina. This team's not capable of easily beating anyone. The Shockey fumble was practically preordained.

The only conference title game with that type of mismatch I can recall is Texas/Colorado in 05 (when the Horns won 70-3 or something). That'd be the only one that would come close, I'd think.

Cap space or no cap space, I'm just glad my one decent sports team will have a season.

The three SB area teams in Indiana all got smacked around, with my alma mater, Penn, capping it all off with a 54-0 annihilation at the hands of Carmel. Penn has lost their last two state trips by a score of 101-7 (and the 7 was a garbage-time score). Seems like they should just award the title to whoever comes out of the Indianapolis area.

Tim Abromaitis out for the season. NIT might not even be guaranteed for ND now. On the bright side, they smeared something called Bryant and are still unbeaten in their creampuff games without him.

Hiring a MAC coach isn't in itself a bad idea (see Hoke, Meyer, etc). Hiring a guy who never had a regular season better than 7-5 in the MAC, yeah, that might not be so smart.

MAC Championship Game in Detroit (8 pm Friday, ESPN2) Northern Illinois vs Ohio Pac-12 Championship Game (8 pm Friday, FOX) UCLA at (9) Oregon Conference USA Championship Game (12 pm, ABC) (24) Southern Miss at (6) Houston SEC Championship Game in Atlanta (4 pm, CBS) (14) Georgia vs (1) LSU ACC Championship Game in Charlotte (8 pm, ESPN) (20) Clemson vs (5) Virginia Tech Big Ten Championship Game in Indianapolis (8 pm, FOX) (13) Michigan State vs (15) Wisconsin Top 25 games ------------------------ (10) Oklahoma at (3) Oklahoma State (8 pm, ABC) New Mexico at (7) Boise State (6 pm, The Mountain) Iowa State at (11) Kansas State (12:30 pm, FSN/CSN) (22) Texas at (17) Baylor (3:30 pm, ABC) UNLV at (18) TCU (2:30 pm, Versus) (23) West Virginia at South Florida (8 pm Thursday, ESPN) Other nationally available games --------------------------------------- Connecticut at Cincinnati (12 pm, ESPN) Syracuse at Pittsburgh (12 pm, ESPN2) Utah State at New Mexico State (3:30 pm, ESPN3) Idaho at Nevada (4 pm, ESPN3) Troy at Arkansas State (4:30 pm, ESPN3) BYU at Hawaii (7:30 pm, ESPN2) Fresno State at San Diego State (8 pm, CBS College)

Well done taking a 10 or 11-win team (and just as importantly, a 10 or 11-win schedule) and coaching them to 8, Mr. Kelly. Three different QBs started halves this year without any injury involved. Ugh.

They'll request - and likely get - a waiver to go to a bowl despite going 6-7. The MAC tried that when 6-6 Miami (OH) went to the MAC title game and lost, and it didn't work. Might have more luck with a more marquee program though.

I'm not worried about the Colts game just because I don't think they can stop Cam, but I still wouldn't be surprised if Carolina finds a way to lose. Only favored by 4 though, if you're more confident than I, that's a good bet.

...Cam's having a phenomenal season, unless i'm to hold it against him that all of his defense besides the DEs is either injured or terrible His TD/INT ratio is too poor for me to call it phenomenal. 4 more picks today. But yes, we need to use our top 5 draft pick on defense. The only question is which horrible defensive unit we spend it on.

Mizzou fans, what should I expect to see tomorrow night? I know very little of your team and I'm not sure what to make of ND yet either, especially with Abromaitis in his first game back.

Yeah, that was really bad. ND wasn't going to beat Stanford anyway, but any thought of it probably went up in smoke now that we've only got one RB for that game. That means Kelly's going to unleash Rees, which could mean 4 or 5 INTs instead of just 1 or 2. Why do you think ND had no shot against Stanford? I'm not sure Stanford is all that great. They don't have to be. Rees hasn't improved in the slightest, despite playing well into the 4th in almost every game. Kelly must have banked on him improving throughout the year and it just hasn't happened. Teams drop 8-9 guys and make him throw into coverage b/c he can't run, can't zip the ball, and can't throw deep. Gray (guy who blew out his knee) had outperformed Wood for about 8 weeks and gave ND 2 quality RBs. Now we have a junior and 2 true freshman at RB. It's not going to be pretty. Doesn't matter. At either 8 or 9 wins, ND is going to the Champs Sports bowl. There you go, UMFan. Mariner described it more eloquently than I would have but that's it in a nutshell. And as for Rees, God, does ND ever need Hendrix or (more likely) Golson to take the starting job from Rees in the off-season. With him at QB, ND's ceiling is 8 or 9 wins.

Sorry Bears fans. If it helps, we did give you a win by stupidly kicking to Devin Hester repeatedly. God, this team stinks. I know Cam is having an ok season and he's just a rookie and blah blah blah, but the bottom line is we're gonna win 3 or 4 games. That's pitiful.

Top 25 games ------------------------ (3) Arkansas at (1) LSU (2:30 pm Friday, CBS) (2) Alabama at (24) Auburn (3:30 pm, CBS) (5) Virginia Tech at Virginia (3:30 pm, ABC/ESPN2) (22) Notre Dame at (6) Stanford (8 pm, ABC) Wyoming at (7) Boise State (2 pm, The Mountain) (8) Houston at Tulsa (12 pm Friday, FSN/CSN) Iowa State at (9) Oklahoma (12 pm, FX) Oregon State at (10) Oregon (3:30 pm, ABC/ESPN2) UCLA at (10*) USC (10 pm, FSN/CSN) (17) Clemson at (12) South Carolina (7:45 pm, ESPN) (13) Georgia at (23) Georgia Tech (12 pm, ESPN) (14) Michigan State at Northwestern (12 pm, BTN) Ohio State at (15) Michigan (12 pm, ABC) (19) Penn State at (16) Wisconsin (3:30 pm, ESPN) (18) Baylor vs Texas Tech – in Arlington, TX (7 pm, FSN/CSN) Iowa at (21) Nebraska (12 pm Friday, ABC) (25) Texas at Texas A&M (8 pm Thursday, ESPN) (* denotes AP ranking; ineligible for BCS) Games of interest ------------------------ Eastern Michigan at Northern Illinois (11 am Friday, ESPNU) Louisville at South Florida (12 pm Friday, ESPN2) Toledo at Ball State (2 pm Friday, ESPN3) Tennessee at Kentucky (12 pm, SEC Network) Kansas vs Missouri – in Kansas City (3:30 pm, FSN/CSN) Purdue at Indiana (3:30 pm, BTN – Regional) Illinois at Minnesota (3:30 pm, BTN – Regional) Duke at North Carolina (3:30 pm, ESPN3) Ole Miss at Mississippi State (7 pm, ESPNU) Florida State at Florida (7 pm, ESPN2) Other nationally available games --------------------------------------- Miami (OH) at Ohio (7 pm Tuesday, ESPN2) Kent State at Temple (12 pm Friday, ESPN3) Bowling Green at Buffalo (12 pm Friday, ESPN3) Akron at Western Michigan (1 pm Friday, ESPN3) Boston College at Miami (3:30 pm Friday, ABC) Colorado at Utah (3:30 pm Friday, FSN/CSN) Pittsburgh at West Virginia (7 pm Friday, ESPN) UTEP at Central Florida (7 pm Friday, CBS College) California at Arizona State (10:15 pm Friday, ESPN) Cincinnati at Syracuse (12 pm, Big East Network) Rutgers at Connecticut (12 pm, ESPN2) Rice at SMU (12 pm, FSN/CSN) Maryland at NC State (12:30 pm, ACC Network) Troy at Western Kentucky (12:30 pm, ESPN3) Nevada at Utah State (2 pm, ESPN3) East Carolina at Marshall (3:30 pm, CBS College) Vanderbilt at Wake Forest (3:30 pm, ESPNU) New Mexico State at Louisiana Tech (4 pm, ESPN3) Washington State at Washington (7:30 pm, Versus) Tulane at Hawaii (11 pm, ESPN3)

Yeah, that was really bad. ND wasn't going to beat Stanford anyway, but any thought of it probably went up in smoke now that we've only got one RB for that game. That means Kelly's going to unleash Rees, which could mean 4 or 5 INTs instead of just 1 or 2.

Robert Griffin III should be right with all the other top names in the Heisman discussion. Not his fault his D is awful. Dude just went for almost 500 yards, 4 TD and 0 INT against Oklahoma and led the GW TD drive in 50 seconds.

I just don't see how Arkansas could possibly beat the undisputed #1 team in the country and not move up in the polls at all. There is no right answer, it seems like.

It doesnt matter (for the SEC title game) if Arkansas jumps LSU because they would still lose due to losing the H2H game with Bama earlier this year. Yeah, I forgot to note that. Arkansas would only need to jump Bama, not LSU. The question would become whether 1-loss Arkansas's victory over 1-loss LSU would be good enough to override their loss to 1-loss Bama in that situation for the voters. Talk about a conundrum.

It'd be weird if 1-loss Arkansas beat 1-loss LSU and didn't jump them. Understandable perhaps because of LSU's schedule, but very weird. Stoops appears to be going for 2 in Waco, down by 1 after a TD.

Arkansas would have to jump Bama to make it. The SEC 3-way tiebreaker eliminates the lowest-ranked BCS team and is head to head between the highest 2. It's actually much more possible - even likely - now that Oregon and possibly Oklahoma are getting out of their way.

I wonder if Okla St could even be within reach of getting a 'no-rematch' vote if they beat Oklahoma at this point.

Baylor up 14. Joe Tessitore singlehandedly destroying Bedlam.

No.