Andy

Hmmm. This would be a good bench pickup assuming Dusty doesn't try and sneak him past all the young guys on the depth chart. Let's wait and see if we find something out about this.

Slight disagreement here, SSR. I agree with Kirk Herbstreit that I would take Auburn over the Ducks based on the body of work, and I'd probably take OSU over ND (if I didn't have allegiances to the contrary). I also think that if USC or Texas loses, they're in as an at-large unless they put up a "Nebraska/Colorado 2001" type performance. I don't think there is any doubt, however, that: If USC and Texas win - ND and OSU at-large If one loses - USC/Texas and ND at-large (OSU left out) If they both lose - both at-large (ND and OSU left out)

Derwood, I have complained on this board about how biased that board is, even for my taste. And Rock's House is the message board. The Rock and OmahaDomer are posters there (who are extemely ND biased). That is a post from the message board. Every week they issue "The Rock Report" put together by a few of the posters and place it on the hompage. That was one of them. I have said this many times, but please don't take what a few fans do and label ND fans as a whole based on that. I am sure people could read some posts on here or other Cubs message boards and say the same thing about Cubs fans, but we all know it isn't true. The same holds true with ND fans, and to be quite honest I am getting sick and tired of the fans constantly being portrayed in a negative light. You don't like the school, fine, but please stop making remarks about the fans. There are many, many respectful ND fans. Don't let a few bad apples ruin you opinion of the people who follow ND (that isn't directed at only you). It should be noted that there have been editorials written by USC and Syracuse fans this season (and I'm sure there are other opponents who have done the same) about how respectful and welcoming ND fans are. In my opinion, there should be a playoff with the top 8 BCS teams involved. No exceptions, no conference affiliations. That's the only way to somewhat eliminate the bias from the postseason. Unfortunately it will never happen, and year in and year out teams like Cal last year, Oregon this year, etc. will complain, sometimes with good reason, about being left out of the BCS. That said, I wonder, if Notre Dame beat OSU in the Fiesta, whether there would still be complaints about how ND got in based solely on $$$ (which I'm not arguing is mostly the case here).

No. It's pathetic that Dusty misused Neifi so ineptly that we have to think this way.

I cannot verify that I am ndistops, it is quite possible that an alien has taken control of my brain.

Haven't you heard? It doesn't matter. It's not their fault that their super tough schedule ended up being weak, so you can't hold it against them, and every other team plays weak teams, and they are Notre Dame and God loves them and so does Lou Holtz so they belong in the Fiesta Bowl. God's loving them isn't near as important as the BCS loving the money Notre Dame generates, if you could take off the "I hate ND" blinders for just one second. Why is it that anytime someone claims ND doesn't deserve it, they have "blinders" on. I think it's more likely the ND fans have "blinders" tahn the fact that non_ND fans have them. Of course. Because since ND fulfilled the requirements to get into the BCS, all Irish lovers have blinders on. That makes all the sense in the world. What else do you want ND to do anyway? 10-1? 11-0? 13-0 on an 11-game schedule? What could possibly prove to anyone that this team is BCS-worthy?

Army and Navy would also have a bit of a problem with that. If you can somehow come up with a way for this to work with alignments and memberships and such, you talk to Myles Brand and maybe he can pull it off. I'll also note that this is an ironic argument coming from someone whose team stopped being independents one decade ago and up until this year had been sliding downhill ever since then.

Haven't you heard? It doesn't matter. It's not their fault that their super tough schedule ended up being weak, so you can't hold it against them, and every other team plays weak teams, and they are Notre Dame and God loves them and so does Lou Holtz so they belong in the Fiesta Bowl. God's loving them isn't near as important as the BCS loving the money Notre Dame generates, if you could take off the "I hate ND" blinders for just one second.

I think that West Virginia and Louisville are just as good as any of the one or 2 loss teams. If Colorado and/or Florida St win will that knock ND out of the BCS? I mean who do they pick Texas or ND or do they drop Ohio State? I think that something has to be done about these Conference Playoff games. At least the team with the best conference record goes in the BE but to have these 4 loss teams go in automatically is a joke. What would be worse IMO is if college football had a playoff the fact that Florida St or Colorado would be one of the 8 or 16 teams would just be wrong. I think Ohio State is out the window if USC or Texas goes down because those teams would become at-larges. If they both lost, ND and OSU are both probably out. If Va Tech loses, IMO they are probably out of the at-large picture and are headed for the Gator Bowl.

I hear there's some sort of football game going on next Saturday at the LA Coliseum. Might even be an important one. Orange County High School Playoffs? You have no idea how many "OC" jokes just ran through my head, and I don't even watch the show.

I hear there's some sort of football game going on next Saturday at the LA Coliseum. Might even be an important one. No no, this can't be the case. :wink:

For all the talk about how pathetic it is that the Big East still gets a bid, West Virginia is no slouch. They'll probably be the worst of the 8 BCS teams, but the margin won't be near as bad as it was last year with Pitt. I'll be watching the conference title games with interest.

How would UCLA get screwed. They would win the PAC-10 and get an automatic berth, right? I'm still unclear on this. I thought I read that USC could lose and still win the PAC-10 If UCLA defeats USC, there would be a 3-way tie for first place (Oregon, USC, UCLA). Then they'd go to losses against common opponents - losing to a worse team is worse. Obviously, UCLA will be eliminated there. Obviously it's their fault for losing to a bad Arizona team. But that 1 loss has more than likely eliminated UCLA from a BCS game, which I think is a screw job. If UCLA beats USC they should get an at-large over ND since ND's claim to fame is that they almost beat USC. I think Notre Dame's claim to fame is that they didn't get beaten by 35 points by Arizona. But I agree that if UCLA wins, it'd be hard not to give them a bid - certainly harder than denying Oregon.

This is another impressive win for the Bears. They've already surpassed Atlanta as the NFC team I fear most as a Panthers fan (for obvious reasons) and it's becoming just as obvious to the rest of the league that Da Bearss are a force. Thanks for giving us back sole possession of 1st place...only fair since you took it away to begin with. :wink:

New AP poll. 1. USC (55) 11-0 1,615 2. Texas (10) 11-0 1,570 3. LSU 10-1 1,447 4. Penn State 10-1 1,430 5. Virginia Tech 10-1 1,332 6. Ohio State 9-2 1,276 7. Notre Dame 9-2 1,252 8. Oregon 10-1 1,144 9. Auburn 9-2 1,126 10. Miami 9-2 989 11. UCLA 9-1 942 12. West Virginia 9-1 932 13. Georgia 9-2 899 14. Alabama 9-2 758 15. TCU 10-1 740 16. Louisville 8-2 600 17. Florida 8-3 542 18. Texas Tech 9-2 512 19. Boston College 8-3 396 20. Michigan 7-4 340 21. Wisconsin 9-3 317 22. Clemson 7-4 225 23. Fresno State 8-3 203 24. Georgia Tech 7-4 187 25. Iowa 7-4 91 ND drops a spot after the less than impressive performance against Stanford.

ND beat Hofstra 69-50 after trailing at halftime, then got smoked by NC State (although the Pack are a good team) at the Wooden Tradition this weekend. Ouch. Ball State bounced back from their pathetic showing against Oakland City and smacked around Wright State 71-50. Bring on Butler!

Got home today, and that game never worried me, oddly enough. When Stanford went up 31-30 I looked at the clock (1:46), I looked at the timeouts (2), and I looked at the QB (Brady Quinn) and I knew we weren't losing this game. Although it should be noted that Charlie Weis would have all but ruined all his goodwill from this season if we'd lost for the reprehensible decision of letting DJ kick that last FG. But as always ND survived. Notre Dame is headed to the Fiesta Bowl :D

I voted color, because the Orange, the Gold, the Cardinal, all pathetic. My whole area had a medieval quality to the nicknames: Colonials, Kingsmen, Indians, Knights, Archers, Spartans, Guardsmen...

I'd like to join the "I like the blue shirts" BandWGN.

Sosa-McGriff-Alou!! sorry... sorry. I'm sorry. No really... I'm sorry.[/b] I spent months and months trying to make that exact same case in 2002...dark days...

Brady Quinn said that he'd "already made it pretty clear" he was staying when asked about it after the BYU game. He's got a lot more to do in a Notre Dame uniform, and winning the Heisman and national title are realistic goals for 06. And yes, 5 months ago, I would have laughed my ass off if you'd read me that sentence.

If you can do it consistently for years I don't think you can call it luck. I don't know what it is, but if it was luck it would even out over the years. You'd think, but these are the things that happen to Cubs' rivals...

You are correct...

Pretty surprising. And chicago is the only one of the 3 that will make the playoffs. Wildcards will be one of NY/dallas (dallas) and TB/carolina. Carolina's winning the South. Chris Simms doesn't win division titles and Vick has looked like crap lately.

http://snl.jt.org/arc/char/George%20Wendt-Bob%20Swerski.jpg "Now boys I gotta question for you. Who would win in a fight? A hurricane...or a certain Coach Ditka?" "Ummm...what's the name of the hurricane?" "It's a trick question. The hurricane's name is Ditka!"