Andy

I think that West Virginia and Louisville are just as good as any of the one or 2 loss teams. If Colorado and/or Florida St win will that knock ND out of the BCS? I mean who do they pick Texas or ND or do they drop Ohio State? I think that something has to be done about these Conference Playoff games. At least the team with the best conference record goes in the BE but to have these 4 loss teams go in automatically is a joke. What would be worse IMO is if college football had a playoff the fact that Florida St or Colorado would be one of the 8 or 16 teams would just be wrong. I think Ohio State is out the window if USC or Texas goes down because those teams would become at-larges. If they both lost, ND and OSU are both probably out. If Va Tech loses, IMO they are probably out of the at-large picture and are headed for the Gator Bowl.

I hear there's some sort of football game going on next Saturday at the LA Coliseum. Might even be an important one. Orange County High School Playoffs? You have no idea how many "OC" jokes just ran through my head, and I don't even watch the show.

I hear there's some sort of football game going on next Saturday at the LA Coliseum. Might even be an important one. No no, this can't be the case. :wink:

For all the talk about how pathetic it is that the Big East still gets a bid, West Virginia is no slouch. They'll probably be the worst of the 8 BCS teams, but the margin won't be near as bad as it was last year with Pitt. I'll be watching the conference title games with interest.

How would UCLA get screwed. They would win the PAC-10 and get an automatic berth, right? I'm still unclear on this. I thought I read that USC could lose and still win the PAC-10 If UCLA defeats USC, there would be a 3-way tie for first place (Oregon, USC, UCLA). Then they'd go to losses against common opponents - losing to a worse team is worse. Obviously, UCLA will be eliminated there. Obviously it's their fault for losing to a bad Arizona team. But that 1 loss has more than likely eliminated UCLA from a BCS game, which I think is a screw job. If UCLA beats USC they should get an at-large over ND since ND's claim to fame is that they almost beat USC. I think Notre Dame's claim to fame is that they didn't get beaten by 35 points by Arizona. But I agree that if UCLA wins, it'd be hard not to give them a bid - certainly harder than denying Oregon.

This is another impressive win for the Bears. They've already surpassed Atlanta as the NFC team I fear most as a Panthers fan (for obvious reasons) and it's becoming just as obvious to the rest of the league that Da Bearss are a force. Thanks for giving us back sole possession of 1st place...only fair since you took it away to begin with. :wink:

New AP poll. 1. USC (55) 11-0 1,615 2. Texas (10) 11-0 1,570 3. LSU 10-1 1,447 4. Penn State 10-1 1,430 5. Virginia Tech 10-1 1,332 6. Ohio State 9-2 1,276 7. Notre Dame 9-2 1,252 8. Oregon 10-1 1,144 9. Auburn 9-2 1,126 10. Miami 9-2 989 11. UCLA 9-1 942 12. West Virginia 9-1 932 13. Georgia 9-2 899 14. Alabama 9-2 758 15. TCU 10-1 740 16. Louisville 8-2 600 17. Florida 8-3 542 18. Texas Tech 9-2 512 19. Boston College 8-3 396 20. Michigan 7-4 340 21. Wisconsin 9-3 317 22. Clemson 7-4 225 23. Fresno State 8-3 203 24. Georgia Tech 7-4 187 25. Iowa 7-4 91 ND drops a spot after the less than impressive performance against Stanford.

ND beat Hofstra 69-50 after trailing at halftime, then got smoked by NC State (although the Pack are a good team) at the Wooden Tradition this weekend. Ouch. Ball State bounced back from their pathetic showing against Oakland City and smacked around Wright State 71-50. Bring on Butler!

Got home today, and that game never worried me, oddly enough. When Stanford went up 31-30 I looked at the clock (1:46), I looked at the timeouts (2), and I looked at the QB (Brady Quinn) and I knew we weren't losing this game. Although it should be noted that Charlie Weis would have all but ruined all his goodwill from this season if we'd lost for the reprehensible decision of letting DJ kick that last FG. But as always ND survived. Notre Dame is headed to the Fiesta Bowl :D

I voted color, because the Orange, the Gold, the Cardinal, all pathetic. My whole area had a medieval quality to the nicknames: Colonials, Kingsmen, Indians, Knights, Archers, Spartans, Guardsmen...

I'd like to join the "I like the blue shirts" BandWGN.

Sosa-McGriff-Alou!! sorry... sorry. I'm sorry. No really... I'm sorry.[/b] I spent months and months trying to make that exact same case in 2002...dark days...

Brady Quinn said that he'd "already made it pretty clear" he was staying when asked about it after the BYU game. He's got a lot more to do in a Notre Dame uniform, and winning the Heisman and national title are realistic goals for 06. And yes, 5 months ago, I would have laughed my ass off if you'd read me that sentence.

If you can do it consistently for years I don't think you can call it luck. I don't know what it is, but if it was luck it would even out over the years. You'd think, but these are the things that happen to Cubs' rivals...

You are correct...

Pretty surprising. And chicago is the only one of the 3 that will make the playoffs. Wildcards will be one of NY/dallas (dallas) and TB/carolina. Carolina's winning the South. Chris Simms doesn't win division titles and Vick has looked like crap lately.

http://snl.jt.org/arc/char/George%20Wendt-Bob%20Swerski.jpg "Now boys I gotta question for you. Who would win in a fight? A hurricane...or a certain Coach Ditka?" "Ummm...what's the name of the hurricane?" "It's a trick question. The hurricane's name is Ditka!"

Great deal for the Red Sox. Lowell is useless, but to get Beckett for two minor leaguers and a PTBNL is fantastic on their part.

Switch the team's defenses and Carolina wins, probably by a large margin. Switch Thomas Jones with Stephen Davis and Chicago still wins. Answer = defense.

I still think they should change it to the MJ Jumpman logo. :)

I'll put the odds of that at about 15 percent. If he ended up on Atlanta the odds would become more like 75 percent, but let's hope the Cubs' penchant for running prospects into the ground doesn't happen with Felix.

I hate having to deny Charlie an award that he'd have won in just about any other year, but Penn State was in much worse shape coming into 2005 than Notre Dame was, and it's not arguable that PSU has been better than Notre Dame this year. I give it to JoePa.

Absolutely. Snow Bowl memories all over again. One of my very first ND memories is Mirer-to-Reggie Brooks for the game winning 2 point conversion in that game. Amazing.

Bulls get their 2nd circus-trip win in 7 years :D

Allow me to run through this quickly... LSU - Will probably win the SEC and get their automatic bid. If they lost it would be hard not to give them an at-large berth, but we'll cross that bridge if we come to it. Va Tech - Will probably win the ACC and take the automatic bid. IMO if they were to lose to FSU in the ACC title game or to UNC next week, they would be eliminated from at-large consideration and rightfully so. Oregon - Probably the team that is getting screwed worst. Their USC loss wasn't particularly impressive-looking, but for a one-loss team to be passed over for an at-large berth would be very unfortunate. Should UCLA beat USC, I think Raisin said that Oregon would get the Pac-10's bid for reasons I haven't gathered. UCLA - IMO they shouldn't be considered for an at-large unless they beat USC. That Arizona game was just too ugly. OSU - Probably deserving of a BCS berth, unless USC and/or Texas were to lose their final games, in which case OSU would probably be pushed out. ND - Obviously hottest-button issue on this board. So as to not open up a can of worms, I'll just say that if they beat Stanford they will get a BCS berth, deserving or not. Georgia - If they beat LSU in the title game, they get the automatic berth. If not, they are eliminated from consideration. Auburn - Probably out of the picture. That Georgia Tech loss was extremely damaging, and unless LSU somehow loses to Arkansas they don't get another game to prove themselves. Bama - Out of the picture. If Prothro doesn't get hurt, they're still unbeaten IMO, but as it is they have no shot. Miami - Out of the picture for an at-large bid IMO. If Va Tech lost to UNC, they'd get a shot at the ACC title, but that's obviously unlikely. Texas Tech - No shot. They don't deserve one with their ridiculously bad schedule. WV - Will get in as the Big East's representative unless USF wins out. If they fail to win the conference, they have no shot.