Uh, this really isn't the best argument to use, being as the Bears needed an intercepted Jeff Garcia pass to beat the Bears less than 3 weeks ago. Uh, So the Bears barely beat the lions and the Panthers barely beat the lions.....sounds close to me. Lotsa people on TV and radio are making these guys to be bad asses and SB favorites of the NFC. Bad asses dont just barely beat the lions. Badasses do, though, have bad weeks once in a while. I can't believe you chose the Lions argument over a more obvious one, such as "they needed three red-zone interceptions just to beat the Cardinals" and "they lost to the Saints at home". Carolina is weird. If they don't fumble the ball late in the 1st half against the Saints and Delhomme doesn't throw a pick late in the 4th against the Dolphins, they're probably 9-0 right now. On the other hand, if Chris Weinke doesn't lead a miracle drive to beat Detroit and any of those three red-zone interceptions against Arizona is not made, Carolina is probably 5-4. I think the team of the last few weeks would qualify as "badass", however.