Charlie Weis also voted ND #4, ahead of Ohio State, even though Ohio State only lost to two of the top three teams in the country, and ND lost at home to a team that wasn't bowl eligible. And, Ohio State beat that same team at home. Conspiracy! So it means nothing to you that an entire conference realized after the VT loss that ND was likely to slip into an automatic slot in the BCS and decided to ban together to try to stop it? If Weis and 10 of his coaching cronies had gotten together and voted ND 4th and Oregon 10th (Weis had Oregon 6th BTW), then you might have an argument. So, you're saying that these Pac-10 coaches were voting ND the same as everyone else, and decided based on the VT loss that they were all going to change their vote to try and keep them out of the BCS? Knowing that only 5 Pac-10 coaches vote out of 62 vote, and that one of those coaches voted ND at #5, higher than their current position? Fact: ND was ahead of Oregon last week. Fact: ND is behind Oregon this week. Fact: Neither ND or Oregon played last week. Maybe there was more than just Pac-10 coaches doing it? All I know is that some coaches apparently decided that bye weeks was ample reason to change their mind on whether ND or Oregon was better. Just out of curiosity, was the one coach that put ND at 5 Pete Carroll?