On one hand it makes me sick that we're getting another guy who is just a Lovie guy. I really don't see him as a Lovie guy. Lovie guys are all defensive coaches in love with the Tampa 2. Martz was in STL long before Lovie was, and if anything, Lovie is a Martz guy, as he was his defensive coordinator in STL. I don't even consider Turner a Lovie guy, as he was basically an autonomous CEO of the offense. I'm not sure how much stock I put into this report, but I think I'd love to see a situation where a guy like Martz is the OC and that Bates dude is the QB coach. That's the best-case scenario, IMO.