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right, I agree with that. but if you're able to hit behind the runner, lay down sacrifice bunts, get runners in from 3rd with 1 out, etc. you're going to win close games at a better percentage. if you watch games allowing yourself some subjectivity this becomes evident before long. ok, fine. collective concensus, if thats the term you'd prefer.

they were 16 games over .500 in one-run games too? you're being intentionally dense. if you have a team with a good run differential and good execution of fundamental play, you probably have a WS contender. i can't believe this is so controversial, but the groupthink evident in this thread is that the 2nd aspect is simply BS. it's really a bizarre bias.

thats the best reasoning you can give for it? boy are those teams who exhibit great fundamentals really lucky. 2007 diamondbacks...horseshoe...ass...

They were 35-19 in 1-run games and outproduced their expected W-L by 8 games. That indicates to me they excelled at fundamental play and situational hitting (and featured a strong bullpen). They were 35-19 in 1-run games because they had 12 pitchers pitch out of their minds and their offense couldn't score many runs so they were drawn into close games. the astros pitchers pitched even more 'out of their minds' and their offense 'couldn't score many runs' even worse yet they managed a modest 25-21 record in their games.

They were 35-19 in 1-run games and outproduced their expected W-L by 8 games. That indicates to me they excelled at fundamental play and situational hitting (and featured a strong bullpen).

there is more than one way to score a run, and win ballgames. but the posters in this thread exhibit so much unbridled arrogance and pomposity that they must be authorities on the matter. no point in having any discussion on the topic, really...

hmm i thought i made a coherent counter argument but everyone seemed to gloss over it

getting pushed into the goalie constitutes goaltender interference?

the problem is that you're looking at this in terms of aggregated production. winning 10-1 doesn't benefit you in the standings anymore than 3-2, i know this is nothing groundbreaking to say. but for a team that does benefit from a strong pitching staff it might be prudent to have players who can more consistently score runs. i know this is going to incite loads of chuckles because now i sound like joe morgan, but it should be obvious that offensive production via bunt singles, stolen bases, sacrifices are more easily achieved when you're facing tough pitchers than swinging away trying for hits. that's just playing situationally, getting what the defense gives you. of course, if you don't have a strong pitching staff the weaknesses of podsednik types are greatly exposed, as you'll need to score more runs to keep up with what your pitchers are surrendering and don't really have the option of situational small ball. you guys are going by the sabermetric book too much in this topic.

supposedly steve phillips offered david wright in a jose cruz jr. deal to the blue jays but was turned down by ricciardi, who is loved on here

his OBP isn't ~.330

wow i really can't believe the reactions to that play. guys like holmstrom do this every game, theyre just less obnoxious and obvious about it. but you hear all these canadian talking heads saying they're embarrassed for the game of hockey, sean avery's family and the entire human race. give me a break. not just that play. he's still talking about brodeur's divorce, 5 years after it happened? avery's a scumbag. that made me laugh, reminds me of Slapshot where Newman's taunting the goalie

wow i really can't believe the reactions to that play. guys like holmstrom do this every game, theyre just less obnoxious and obvious about it. but you hear all these canadian talking heads saying they're embarrassed for the game of hockey, sean avery's family and the entire human race. give me a break.

i'm not as impressed with his defense as others are. like the range, not the arm.

wow what a defensive meltdown by the capitals

The Jaguars have pass rush as a major need and address that need with one of the best pure pass rushers in the draft, Quentin Groves from Auburn. 1 Miami Dolphins - Warpticon - Jake Long, OT, Michigan 2 St. Louis Rams - reggiemiller rules - Chris Long, DE, Virginia 3 Atlanta Falcons - The Golden Thunder - Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU 4 Oakland Raiders - soccer10k - Ryan Clady, OT, Boise St 5 Kansas City Chiefs - PingHitter - Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC 6 New York Jets - BHogg - Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas 7 New England Patriots (From 49ers) - GoCubsGo! - Vernon Gholston, DE, Ohio State 8 Baltimore Ravens - b_wiggy_66 - Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College 9 Cincinnati Bengals - Rocket - Keith Rivers, LB, USC (via proxy) 10 New Orleans Saints - OleMissCub - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, Tennessee St 11 Buffalo Bills - PingHitter - Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy 12 Denver Broncos - MPC - Jeff Otah, OT, Pittsburgh 13 Carolina Panthers - Andy - Rashard Mendenhall, RB, Illinois 14 Chicago Bears - CaliforniaRaisin et al - Brandon Albert, OL, Virginia 15 Detroit Lions - Cubweiser - Derrick Harvey, DE, Florida 16 Arizona Cardinals - Flames24Rulz Michael Jenkins, CB, USF 17 Minnesota Vikings - PriorPower - Calais Campbell, DE, Miami 18 Houston Texans - Rawaction - Chris Williams, OT, Vanderbilt 19 Philadelphia Eagles - TruffleShuffle - Kenny Phillips, S, Miami (FL) 20 Tampa Bay Buccaneers - reds44 - Rawaction Jackson, WR, UC Berkeley 21 Washington Redskins - Handlebar McSkullet - Phillip Merling, DE, Clemson 22 Dallas Cowboys (From Browns) - vance_the_cubs_fan - Devin Thomas, WR, Michigan St 23 Pittsburgh Steelers - AI - Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College 24 Tennessee Titans - dew - James Hardy, WR, Indiana 25 Seattle Seahawks - mhuber92211 - Jonathan Stewart, RB, Oregon 26 Jacksonville Jaguars - Quentin Groves, DE, Auburn 27 San Diego Chargers - CaliforniaRaisin - on the clock! 28 Dallas Cowboys - vance_the_cubs_fan 29 San Francisco 49ers (From Colts) - TruffleShuffle 30 Green Bay Packers - Flames24Rulz 31 New York Giants - jersey cubs fan

he worked on his swing with Crowley last season and batted .313 after the break, albeit with a .458 slg. 23 Ks in 201 ABs is a sharp contrast from 168 in a season. i have to admit i'm still rooting for him, I'd love to see Corey become an all-star.

and Bouchard puts one in to win it. the Avs played deplorable defense after the 2nd. and with the offensive firepower they've got they should be able to muster a few good chances in a game, but that really didn't happen tonight. Stastny and Smyth were non-factors. Finger's really gotta feel like crap too for the GW goal.

The Wild are getting 2 on 1s with regularity in OT and Theodores stoning them all. He's been sensational tonight.

so does this pick slide to me when the time runs out, like the Vikings did with the Kevin Williams draft?

I think it was Listach that said his sinker was as good as Webb's.

Berg is a guy I like a lot, as he has ability to keep the ball on the ground at an elite level.

he's only had 2 strikeouts all year

that's my entire point, he's been relegated to decoy status. if his hand hurts that bad, put him on the DL. if he's not going to be given a fair shot, let him OPS 1200 or whatever in Iowa so we can get something useful for him.

well he certainly didn't capitalize on the opportunity given to him today, the bum