I am of the opinion that Cuse and I are having a seperate conversation than you Sullymon. This conversation started over IMB saying never. Cuse and then I later are saying, not never but in very special circumstances. For that we are being pilloried for not worshiping at the alter of James. The truth is we both agree with James and are saying that this is how we would apply James to REAL GAME SITUATIONS. What I get from you is that numbers are the reality as opposed to the actual game situations. Go back to my post, the last on page six, and understand that according to James I am a blooming idiot. However I present the case that I picked up the information in that game situation and did the "wrong thing" for the right reasons. Also understand that in eight years of coaching that is the ONLY time I have tried that in a real game. I did it once in a scrimmage game, in my first year of coaching, also but that result was less than optimal.