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Pretty simple...walking the lefty to get to the righty for the better matchup. Seems pretty sound to me with a guy like Fielder at the plate. And it worked. Good work by Gaudin.

He didn't so much get the nod over Edmonds as he got the start because Edmonds needed an extra day off due to his multitude of injuries, specifically the knee in this case.

He threw 61 pitches in his 1st outing with 30 or 31 strikes and threw somewhere in the 70s in the second with low 40s in strikes I believe. He's obviously struggling with command with as many balls as he's throwing for a guy who had such good command before he got hurt.

Giordano's is good, Lou Malnati's is the nectar of the gods. Go to Murphy's or the Cubbie Bear before the game for a few beers to get the experience. I have to agree with another poster, good restaurants in Chicago are like hot chicks at the Playboy mansion. Another interesting place to go is Dick's Last Resort. Look it up, it's interesting. Try the Chicago style dog at the game or at a Vienna beef place. And you're not allowed to put ketchup on it, but get everything else on it.

This is one of the few instances where I can really say that the Cards kind of screwed themselves. Duncan can only get success from one type of guy and Reyes didn't want to/ have the ability to pitch to contact like the Duncan system dictates. I think within 2 years you'll see Reyes pitching at the level of a solid 3-4 man and getting quite a few strikeouts just because they'll let him be what he is, a power pitcher who likes to throw that 4 seamer high in the zone and use his off speed stuff as his strikeout pitch.

Or, it was his 1st ML outing and he didn't look too bad. Either way, his career path isn't going to be determined by today's outing. I think we all remember Wellemeyer's ML debut.

Wasn't there talk earlier this year of him making a concious effort to not throw as hard and therefore get more movement on his pitches? I have to think that would have something to do with missing less bats due to a decrease in velocity but the contact that is made isn't as solid because of the added movement.

Its the same comments, year after year. Its more funny than it is annoying. Hey I understand being a superfan for your team, but these comments come off making the author sound silly and not well informed. Yeah Im a Cardinal fan. Sometimes you find relevant debate and information, more often you dont, like the above. On that note, what would say to a four gamer with the Brew, now with the improved top of your rotation. Going in would you take a split and move on (depending how the rotations are set up)? Four gamers are a pain usually. Good luck everyone. I can understand being annoyed at something like this in years past, but the Cards have a bunch of journeymen having career years this year. Miles, Ludwick, Lohse, Pineiro, Wellemeyer, and Schumaker are all having career years. I'll give on Ankiel because he's still learning how to hit and how to be a ML player, but the rest are just playing out of their minds. In other years, yeah, that would be a dumb statement, but this year you can't deny it's true unless you're wearing those Cardinal colored sunglasses. Maybe these guys have all discovered something that is making them better (no, I'm not talking PEDs) and will continue to be as good as they have been this year, but somehow I doubt that will happen. That's why so many people, experts included, are so shocked by the Cards performance this year and continue to expect them to regress. I hope they do, but maybe they don't. It'll be a fun 2.5 months to the end.

So which one of those guys had TJS end their career? I'm fairly certain at this point that the list of ML guys who have come back from TJS and been successful in the last 10 years is longer than the list of ML guys who have had a career ended or completely changed from it.

English much? :mrgreen:

Isn't Lilly signed thru 2010? I thought his deal was 4/$40.

what did Hill do today?

Hart was doing a press conference with his daughter sitting on his lap and the whole team came into the room with beer/champagne bottles and mauled him and sprayed him down (and his daughter) with alcohol.

The only pitchers he had left was Harang, Volquez, and Cueto. I don't blame him for using Harang, but the problem I have with it is pitching him 3 days later. Should have called somebody up and skipped his start. Smart teams have forced position players to pitch rather than hurt their ace. One game, especially to the reds who aren't in the race, is not worth losing Harang for any period of time. Exactly. However, everyone who visits NSBB is quite aware that Dusty isn't smart. Heck, I would have put the big boy (Harang) at 1b and let whoever was playing 1st have a crack at the rotation. When a game gets to the point where you have zero bench left other than your other starters, it's time to let anyone who isn't a rotation guy pitch if they want to pitch. The outcome of one game should never take precedence over the outcome of a career. Yeah I'd throw a position guy first. Just tank it, who cares it's one game and not worth the many games Harang will probably now be out. Didn't some team just throw a position player a couple days ago too? Padres maybe? Mariners had their backup catcher pitch in a tied extra inning game. Riggleman is light years ahead of Dusty but has never had "the horses". Talk about perception not being reality in quality of managers.

They seem generally pretty reasonable over ther with the occasional nut who thinks the Brewers got totally screwed or the Cubs gave up a bunch of nothing for Harden. Overall pretty good analysis with a few of the level headed ones realizing how much every team's fans hype their own prospects.

Depends if you count Puerto Rico as US territory or not well it ain't English language territory I think you'd be surprised by how much english is spoken down there, or at least how many people speak it pretty well. (I have a Puerto Rican sister in law, so I'm not just completely talking out my butt)

Rich Harden is a motherfreaking Cub!!!!!!!!!!! And I am gay for Soto, Wood, Ramirez, Lee and possibly Harden. Those are two new developments Fred. Don't you have work to do?

Nice range by Fonty. PC for Demp?

And apparently that pitch is strike 3 to Kosuke but a ball for Demp?

Ump in the Philly game just called an ankle high slider that was 3-4 inches outside a strike that should have been ball 4 and Werth pops out on the next pitch.

Demp's getting squeezed on the inside corner to the LH hitters.

Harang's been terrible ever since Dusty pitched him for 63 pitches out of the pen 2 days after he threw 103. Then 3 days later he got shelled throwing 73 more pitches. Imagine throwing 239 pitches in 3 outings over a 6 day span having an adverse effect on you being able to pitch effectively in future games.

PC?

and the PH catcher hits into a DP. Awesome.

Phils with 2 on one out and a pitching change for the Cards.