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Also, enough with the $4-5 million per year savings. It's 4-5 in 2009 and then Gregg is off the books and that money can be allocated to other resources. If Wood gets $40 over 4 or $50 million over 5, it's a total savings of $35 or $45 million. Or and average of almost $9 million over the life of the deal. This is assuming Hendry doesn't lose his mind and sign him long term.
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Soul, if you think the contract Woody is going to get will be cheap or reasonable, you either haven't been paying attention or don't have any idea about the concept of either term. He's going to get at least 3 years, probably 4 or 5, and more than likely $10 million per at the minimum. Not cheap or reasonable for any "closer", let alone one with the injury history Wood has. Not a risk that can be taken with as many backloaded contacts for aging players this team has to deal with over the life of what that contract would be.
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You're all treating this as if it's a 5 year, $12 million per deal. It just wouldn't be on that level, can't be seen in the same light at all. Who is this going to allow us to sign that will make us so much better? Answer me THAT. ?????????????????????????
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Wow that is some interesting logic Yeah, that makes no sense. this deal was done because of the decision to not bring back wood. it wasn't a choice between keeping woody and trading for gregg. The end result is, Gregg will be there instead of Woody. As for saving 4-5 million -- that seems like a pretty small amount of money for a team to be unloading an all-star pitcher with a 1.085 WHIP when they're already spending over 100 million and talking about taking on more. you're talking about a 4-year commitment to a guy with an arm put together by duct tape. i don't necessarily like the trade for gregg or even gregg himself, really, but woody was long gone and the deals had nothing to do with each other besides the fact that we needed another body in there. Going with Gregg instead of wood this year is only a difference of $5 mil, but it's a difference of over $30 mil over the lifetime of his would be contract. you really want to make that commitment? i don't It's change for this team with a payroll that might push $150 million and will undoubtedly expand even more as we go along. With an uncertain ownership situation and a crapload of backloaded contracts.
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Wow that is some interesting logic Yeah, that makes no sense. this deal was done because of the decision to not bring back wood. it wasn't a choice between keeping woody and trading for gregg. The end result is, Gregg will be there instead of Woody. As for saving 4-5 million -- that seems like a pretty small amount of money for a team to be unloading an all-star pitcher with a 1.085 WHIP when they're already spending over 100 million and talking about taking on more. It's horrible logic to think this way. And you're not just saving $4-5M. You're saving $25-35 million over 4 years and you're not getting locked into what could turn into an awful contract based on Wood's injury history. It may not be an ideal situation, but sometimes you're forced to take the lesser of two evils.
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Yes, this. Especially the or more part that is more likely than the 3/30.
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People really need to stop suggesting this as a possiblility. The Padres don't want a 5M mediocrity as their closer. So Hendry sees Gregg as a solid reliever for the price who has closed for two years but people around the league wouldnt? I have a really hard time believing that. The Cubs are competing next year. The Padres are not. Pretty simple. Also, off track thought here: Padres want him because it's an "expiring contract" that they won't be tied to long term and with as crappy as their farm system is, they want the 2 picks to help start the rebuilding process. Just an out there thought without anything to back it up.
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He either sucks or he's awesome. There is no in-between with this man. Getting rid of Kerry Wood places another tally in the "sucks" column. You'd rather have him handcuff the payroll further by giving an oft-injured closer a 4 year $40 million deal? And what's with the Dempster injury stuff? He had TJS 5 years ago and hasn't had any issues whatsoever since. I can see doubting he can reproduce his production from last year but the injury stuff is way off. It's more a health question. 200 innings is a toll on anybody's arm. He did it 3 times in his 20's then got injured. Now he's got one 200 inning season under his belt after 4 seasons where he averaged 63. Right, but how many of the huge number of guys that have had TJS have either had to have it done again (besides Chad Fox) or had major elbow issues again? His shoulder is fine and the TJS corrected the elbow issues. I have about 5 times as much faith in Dempster staying healthy through the next 2 years than I d in Kerry. I'd love to have him back, but not if he's looking to break the bank on 1 final contract and not give any kind of hometown discount in either years or money.
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He either sucks or he's awesome. There is no in-between with this man. Getting rid of Kerry Wood places another tally in the "sucks" column. You'd rather have him handcuff the payroll further by giving an oft-injured closer a 4 year $40 million deal? And what's with the Dempster injury stuff? He had TJS 5 years ago and hasn't had any issues whatsoever since. I can see doubting he can reproduce his production from last year but the injury stuff is way off.
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If this is what ends up happening, I don't think there can be a whole lot of complaining. Saves money and doesn't tie up a bunch of cash in a guy who, while we all have some emotional attachment to, hasn't gone through 2 consecutive full seasons being healthy since 2002-2003. If Gregg is either spun to the Padres or used as the closer with Marmol as the fireman, I don't see the big issue with the deal. Set up guys, especially ones in AA, are pretty darn replaceable pieces, especially if you get 2 picks for Wood and another 2 picks when Gregg walks after next year.
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How much is Gregg making? Is it possible that this is a necessary piece to get Peavy? As in, did the Padres want a closer to replace Hoffman without having to spend a ton or give up anything more to get one?
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Wood to the Mets rumor?????
mul21 replied to Old Style's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
[hijack] Nothing personal towards you, but why is it that practically everytime any sportswriter is mentioned on this board, there's invariably someone who comes in and says that said writer sucks/is garbage/knows nothing/is an idiot? Seriously, I don't think I've seen any sportswriter not catch flak here (save Bruce Miles, who I assume gets a pass from some people because he posts occasionally). I don't read the sportswriters regularly, but damn ... they can't all be anti-Cubs biased, rumor-mongering, sensationalist baseball morons, can they? [/hijack] My 2 cents: It's because their bosses have demanded that they become sensationalist morons who spew completely irrational ideas that have no base in reality or coherent thought. It's unfortunate that they have to pander to the lowest common denominator to sell papers instead of actually being good journalists and writing things that make sense. -
1. Use the quote button. It's at the bottom right of the post you're quoting. 2. That line is against crappy/injured Cardinal pitching. They haven't had a decent regular season since they moved into that park. And like I said, his power numbers outside of Coors are not nearly what I'm looking for if I'm about to pay a guy $14M.
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My guess would be $$$$$$$$$. Although I'm sure they could do better than the Cardinals offer even if that is the case.
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The upside of this is the fact that his salary will likely prevent them from spending elsewhere and Holliday's numbers away from Coors (power anyway) are less than what you would expect for a guy slated to make $14 million next year (I think).
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You also have to factor in the Cards might be leery of his ability to: 1. produce that type of season again and 2. stay healthy with his injury history. Based on track record, I would tend to side with them being cautious with him rather than banking on another .300-30-100 season from him.
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I think you misinterpreted my use of balance. I meant that insted of getting 30 HR out of one spot and 5 out of another, they may get 20 out of one and 15 out of the other, creating better balance throughout the lineup. Plus you'll have 2 spots with solid OBP instead of one good one and the other that is just meh.
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I saw those rumors too. I'm not sure how one of the best offenses in the NL gets better if it replaces Ludwick with Johnson. By being more balanced. If they get the production they think they can out of Rasmus and add in Johnson's numbers, you probably end up with a little more production overall plus you've added 2 guys in front of Pujols who are expected to get on base at a pretty good clip.
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I'm gonna go with no because all of the WR you're looking at trading for have very uncertain QB situations. Plus, you're high end point potential is much better with the 2 guys you've got. Torry Holt has almost no value in my eyes either. If you need a receiver for this week, Olsen might be a good option because of the Titans propensity for giving up big days to TE.
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Apparently he hits from the wrong side of the plate... And would be a disaster in RF. Plus, if you believe what Lou said, he's also too old and slow.
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I'm way late to the party on this, but I watched about 15 minutes of the Bulls Celtics game the other night and had to wonder if we got the same calls back in the MJ days as the Celtics were getting the other night. I saw TT get hammered under the basket about 3 times with no call, Garnett blatantly push off to catch a post entry pass, and a couple of other things that were just terrible calls. If the Bulls continue to not get calls like that and the Celtics do, it won't be a mystery how they end up with the records they will. The Celtics beat them up the other night, but the refs sure didn't help at all.
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Howry is Type A
mul21 replied to SAMMYWHO's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
Type B: Jeremy Affeldt, Moises Alou, Garret Anderson, Luis Ayala, Joe Beimel, Casey Blake, Milton Bradley, Paul Byrd, Mike Cameron, Alan Embree, Eric Gagne, Jon Garland, Luis Gonzalez, Ken Griffey, Mark Grudzielanek, LaTroy Hawkins, Jason Isringhausen, Randy Johnson, Jeff Kent, Paul LoDuca, Braden Looper, Mark Loretta, Brandon Lyon, Greg Maddux, Brad Penny, Denny Reyes, Arthur Rhodes, Ivan Rodriguez, Rudy Seanez, Brian Shouse, John Smoltz, Frank Thomas, Salomon Torres, Juan Uribe, David Weathers, Randy Wolf Gregg Zaun -
Howry is Type A
mul21 replied to SAMMYWHO's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
Type A: Bobby Abreu, Doug Brocail, A.J. Burnett, Pat Burrell, Orlando Cabrera, Juan Cruz, Ryan Dempster, Adam Dunn, Brian Fuentes, Brian Giles, Trevor Hoffman, Bobby Howry, Orlando Hudson, Raul Ibanez, Derek Lowe, Damaso Marte, Jamie Moyer, Mike Mussina, Darren Oliver, Oliver Perez, Andy Pettitte, Manny Ramirez, Edgar Renteria, Francisco Rodriguez, Ben Sheets, Russ Springer, Jason Varitek Kerry Wood. -
Is Marwin Gonzales a real prospect? How difficult is this league? He's hitting the snot out of the ball right now.
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Do it. Holt is done. The timing they used to have is gone and he's nothing more than a slot receiver any more who's afraid to go over the middle. If Bulger will stand in there and actually throw the ball, Avery is a big time home run hitter who will continue to get big plays. He's probably not gonna catch more than 4-5 per game but they might each be 25 yard completions.