The average major league 2B this season has hit .255/.316/.379 Barney is at .300/.328/.369 In other words, because of Barney's lack of plate discipline and power, he's only managed to be an average 2B despite his .300 batting average. So yeah, it's possible to be a productive ML player... but you aren't going to find many stars without real secondary skills. I don't think you will find many people (especially around here) too happy if Vitters winds up being a comp to Darwin Barney so not sure why it is relevant to be using him as an example of how Vitters can be successful without taking walks. Thank you....that's what I was thinking too. Yeah, Darwin Barney production out of a corner position sounds, well, terrible. Especially if it's 1st base (as it seems likely he won't stick at 3rd). Double whoosh! That wasn't anything close to a comparison, just an illustration of how a lack of secondary skills (i.e. patience) will result in average/below average production in spite of a good batting average. Which is where it appears Vitters may be headed at this point. He's obviously going to hit for a lot more power than Barney, but if his IsoD never gets above .030, he's not going to be nearly as dangerous/productive as his contact skills give him the potential to be.