Yeah, but the Saints don’t need a top tier QB to win. As long as they don’t shoot themselves in the foot, they should be a playoff team. But again, they keep making mistakes and seem unprepared to play, and keep hoping their D keeps them close enough to win. That's why I said they have "horsefeathers" at QB. Winston is pretty bad, and Dalton is old and not very good, IMO. The defense will keep them in games, and probably win a few. That "hands to face" on Lattimore was a brutal call. The following PI was mostly legit as the call was influenced by a poorly underthrown ball. Tough break for NO at the end. The terrible “hands to the face” call was against Mathieu. The PI call that should have been offsetting penalties due to an unnoticed offensive face mask was against Lattimore. Btw, 9 1st downs by penalty for Minnesota, 0 for the Saints.