Rob

Anybody figure out who to email to complain to fox yet?

WTF!!! I'd rather watch Lee's at bat than ARods!

Pie has some sick range.

I half expect Lou to pull all his infielders out of the game and yell at them in the clubhouse.

You could watch that one unraveling right from the start... At least we salvaged it.

XBH to boot That's all he's gotten to this point.

Awww, damn that was close.

Save me a spot in the line at the ER.

Cedeno looked surprised he got that hit.

Leadoff double for DeRosa!

At this rate, Marquis is out after five innings.

we might have to throw in Bobby Hill and Hee-Seop Choi

This is true. A 3R HR and a grand slam last year, correct? Off Izzy, yup.

BARRETT!!!

Yeah I dunno either, but I would like to keep him up once Soriano comes back. Nice job Murton! Line drives to the opposite field, thats what we like to see! He ain't gonna be much worse than Jones/Murton (the guys he'd take bats away from). And his CF defense would add GREATLY. don't be so sure about that If you believe in the power of PECOTA, he's better right now.

Runners on 1st and 2nd with 1 down for Aramis.

Murt!

Anybody think I need to take a "Fire Dusty" sign to the game tomorrow?

I bet by the end of the night he's proclaiming that "this is a good time for the hit and run." No time is a good time for that.

Nevermind Fred, I found it. Notables: Pie - 4.40 DeRosa - 4.25 Aramis - 4.12 DLee - 4.11 Cedeno - 4.04 Soriano - 3.81 Murton - 3.71 Izturis - 3.67 Barrett - 3.54 Jacque - 3.52 Theriot - 3.34 Gooz - 7.00

Hey Fred, do you have pitches per plate appearance info for our guys? I'm wondering if my eyes have been deceiving me with a few players. For example, Izturis seems to be seeing a ton of pitches per plate appearance.

Platoon him with Cliff.

Are you seriously suggesting DLee as a leadoff hitter? You might want to lay off the meth. I like the lineup posted by the thread starter, except I would flip Theriot and Murton. First off, saying "lay off the meth" is extremely inappropriate. It seems blatantly obvious you don't understand why my lineup is constructed the way it is, so here's a scenario to ponder. It's the bottom of the 9th with two down, and you're down by one run. You've been one-hit the entire game. The entire game depends on who you had batting leadoff at the start of the game. Would you rather have DLee or Theriot come up to bat in that situation? The bottom line is that you want your best hitters getting the most PA over the course of the season. There's no reason for a guy like Juan Pierre or even Ryan Theriot to get 30-40 more PA than DLee in any given season. Just because the conventional wisdom says that type of player should bat leadoff doesn't make it true. Conventional wisdom used to say the earth was flat and the center of the universe. Applying the scientific method, that was proven to be horribly wrong... the same way conventional lineup construction is. I don't expect any manager in the league to have the cajones to make the switch. Not because they don't think it will work; it certainly will. They wont make the switch because too many baseball fans hold to archaic beliefs, and the fans do have a significant say in whether their manager sticks around for very long. The first five game losing streak of the year would have local beat writers stirring up the fanbase against the manager. I can walk to my bookshelf and pull out books dedicated to this stuff, with empirical evidence to back it up. You have an ad hominem attack, and what amounts to anecdotal evidence . I feel quite comfortable with my position.

If you're really trying to maximize runs, Theriot probably shouldn't be near the top of the lineup. Modern lineup construction appreciates OBP at the top, but the best theoretical lineups have OBP and power at the top. Just working with what we've got, a lineup against righties would look something like this. 1B Lee LF Floyd 2B Soriano 3B Aramis C Barrett RF Jones CF Pie Pitcher SS Theriot That's caring nothing for defense, obviously. Also, you may notice Theriot in the last spot... tangotiger actually found proof of the "second leadoff hitter" theory. I'm just doing this off the top of my head, of course... and relying rather heavily on a few assumptions. Floyd reverting to his pre 2006 form against righties, Pie hitting better against righties than the Big Murt, etc... If those assumptions prove correct, this would be pretty darn close to the most efficient use of those resources from an offensive standpoint.

If Coco Crisp dies there, does ARod get charged with manslaughter?