BigbadB

I agree.

I think he'd be a great fit in Colorado. He's chasing 600 HR's and that's a park he could hit some home runs. They could sign him on the cheap, and they have the money to do it with Hampton now coming off the books and all those other bad contracts gone. They have a good nucleus of talent working their way onto the roster. A veteran bat who plays part time seems like a good way for Sammy to go out. Pitches don't break as well in Colorado and he would probably increase his contact there.

Exactly. I wasn't making that statement to be mean or comical. I honestly believe that's the intention. However, I don't know how anyone could come to the conclusion that earning a winning record on the last day of the season will all of a sudden turn what has been a horrible season, in my eyes, into a successful season. You already know my opinion about that last sentence you wrote, so I'll spare yet another rant.

Walker runs circles around Neifi offensively. Circles. Neifi has 150 more at bats than Walker, and Walker has more XBH's, nearly as many runs scored, and would probably easily eclipse him in RBI's given the same amount of at bats. It's not even close. Add in the fact that Walker has had to hit directly behind Neifi most of the year. How is he supposed to get a big game winning hit when the guy in front of him (Neifi) just hit into another one of his umpteen double plays. You can watch the games everyday or you can review the stats. The stats are a permanent record of how they performed. I watched games and reviewed the stats. The stats pretty much support what I watched all year. I'll go on record and state that if Neifi Perez is leading off for this team next year, they will NOT be in the playoffs again next year. Book it! If Walker leads off next year, I think they have a shot.

I honestly believe Baker is sending those guys in there everyday thinking that the veteran leadership they provide (in his eyes anyway) will help him finish the year with a winning record. Which of course, would look good on HIS resume'.

:cheers:

I don't know. Did we? Until Neifi is hitting at the bottom of the order where he belongs, I'm not watching.

I believe he's checked himself into a mental facility for depression from batting directly behind Neifi Perez day after day. :P

And I agree with this. You have to take advantage of your opportunity to play and prove that you belong out there. You have to adapt to strengthen your weaknesses so that your weakness isn't exposed to the point it outweighs your production, therefore rendering you as replaceable. I agree that he played a major role in this. It saddens me that he wasn't the answer to our long time centerfield problems. I really hoped he was and I hope he eventually gets it figured out. Preferably as a Cub.

I will also add that Corey was rushed too quickly to the majors. He may not have been considered rushed if the right type of management was in charge of the team, but Baylor jerked Corey around and wasted valuable time of his development sitting on the Cubs bench day after day. If when the Cubs brought him up, they inserted him into the line up and left him alone out there and let him play everyday, we might have a totally different ballplayer in Corey Patterson. Instead, Corey got a start here, sat for a week and got a pinch hit at bat. While he was sitting on the bench, future hall of famers Damon Buford and Gary Matthews Jr. got the bulk of the playing time in centerfield.

I don't think you can simply state that Corey was brought up to the majors to be a lead off hitter. They have tried him out all over the place. I can't see the numbers for 2000 or 2001, but in 2002, Corey had nearly an equal amount of at bats at lead off, #2 and #6 in the order. He didn't excel in any of those spots, sporting poor OBP's and poor OPS's. In 2003, Corey's dominant positions in the batting order prior to his season ending injury was in the #3 spot and the #6 spot. Not so productive as a #3 hitter, but improvement in the 6 slot. In 2004, he had more lead off at bats than in any other slot, followed closely by the #2 slot and then 116 at bats in the 7 slot. He had great numbers in the 7 slot, but average to below average in the top two slots. In 2005, he had the most at bats once again in the lead off spot, but a proportionately equal amount in just about all of the other 7 slots in the order (excluding the pitcher's slot). As we all know, he was bad as a lead off hitter, although not much worse than Neifi Perez. Dusty Baker has this illusion that speedy guys or guys who have no clue how to draw a walk should be rewarded by having their name called by the PA announcer before any other Cub hitter in the first inning of a baseball game. I do not know many other people who have this same philosophy when it comes to assembling the line up card. Typically, someone with this philosophy has poor results which costs them their job after a short period of time. I can't prove it, but I believe only Dusty Baker really thought Corey should lead off. I believe this because I also happen to believe that only Dusty Baker believes Neifi Perez should be leading off. Same idiotic thought process, same results. I don't think Corey likes batting 7th or 8th in the line up. Given the choice of batting 1st or 7th or 8th, I think he preferred hitting lead off, therefore the suggestion to Baker that he give leading off a try once again. I believe Corey's preference would be 3rd-5th, but the results haven't been good enough to put him there and leave him there. Corey's plate discipline would never allow me to put him in the heart of the batting order, and Dusty apparently agrees with that philosophy. That's about all we agree on. Anyway, looking over Corey's career, the Cubs probably preferred Corey to be a Rickey Henderson type lead off hitter and realistically, Corey is nothing like Rickey Henderson. They possess the same type of speed and the same kind of power, but after that, the comparisons end. Corey doesn't have plate discipline or plate patience. He is a pull hitter. To me, the biggest strikes against the argument of whether someone is capable of leading off is plate discipline and the ability to use the entire field. It was wrong to try to convert Corey into a lead off hitter. But, the Cubs are not guilty of strictly attempting to make him a lead off hitter. I think it was the lack of having a lead off hitter that made them decide it was worth an attempt to find Corey's niche, which was preferably at the top of the order. It didn't work. But, neither does batting Neifi Perez there, either. Management is pulling down their pants and showing everyone their true ability to assemble a line up. Corey is just a victim of this poor judgment by management. I also think Corey is a victim of not being left alone to try to develop into the player Corey should be. At this point, I don't think he even knows what kind of player he was supposed to develop into.

I despise the man so much that I believe it affects my opinion of his playing abilities. I despise the man so much that I believe that it creates a higher level of belief that he's guilty of steroid usage. It's because of this that I can't list him in my top 10 great players of all time. Biases aside, he's probably the best to ever play the game. What I believe he could have done to pitching in the eras that the other great hitters of the game had the opportunity to face, I believe Barry probably would have had even sicker overall numbers. He can turn on the fastest of fastballs. He can adjust to the best curveballs and off speed pitches. But, his late blooming oversized melon that constantly spews forth nothing but disrespect for the game I love makes it easy for me to simply exclude him from any "greatest" player in the game lists I create. If he were traded to the Cubs this offseason, I'd probably completely change my tune, and I'd all of a sudden feel compassion for all the heat that gets put on him on a daily basis. Since he's still a Giant, I have nothing more to say. :D

Omg Choi's not producing? Have you seen his ops??? :wink: Seriously though LA makes lots of sense. However, Giles may take precedence over Delgado due to Lowell being added. Did you have to introduce your sarcasm here? Aren't enough threads polluted with that argument already? Back to the point. I could see them going after Giles, but they will have money to spend on more than one position this offseason, especially if they trade Bradley. Lowell's had an enormously disappointing season. But he's not necessarily washed up. He might be worth a flier for the Dodgers while they wait for LaRoche or Guzman to take over third base. Not sure why you need to pick me out here when there's so many other's who are guilty of sarcasm. Perhaps if I ripped Neifi or Baker it would be ok. *shrug* Baker and Neifi are currently in season. :D

If it makes you feel any better, Baylor never angered me as much as Dusty has. But, I wouldn't welcome him back either. The sad thing for me is that I was supportive of the hiring of Dusty. I guess that's what I get for not really knowing that much about his coaching philosophies. But, I cannot support the blind blindly following the blind.

Nothing like a loss after a player meeting. I guess he doesn't inspire them as much as people think.... I'm sure Murton got a nice lecture about his base running gaff the other night.... Neifi probably didn't have to attend since he's Dusty's lead off hitter.... More or less, I'm guessing that Baker will do anything and everything to salvage a winning season for his own personal selfish reasons. The fact the team (as he assembles it) wouldn't make it with the way they were playing forced him to sit down with the team and inspire them to make it happen. After all, if Baker can guide this team to a 82-80 record by season's end, he will be able to once again use "but we had a winning record" to blow off the important questions like "what are you going to do to improve this horrible team?". When it's time for his next job, he'll want to put 3 straight winning season's with one of the losingest major league franchises on his resume'. I think that's his only real inspiration. Unfortunately for Dusty, I think his plan will backfire. Mainly because his refusal to acknowledge that his own philosophies on managing a baseball team are making it impossible for this team to finish with a winning record.

It certainly was nice to see that after an organizational meeting, Neifi Perez is still leading off. Obviously, the most glaringly obvious of issues with what is wrong with this team was not discussed.

Baylor? :D

I pretty much agree with everything you said, but Baker is playing with the hand dealt to him from Hendry. You mentioned the other teams, yet I doubt their GM's would've re-signed guys like Macias, Perez, Hollandsworth and sign Burnitz if there were young guys up and coming. I blame Baker for not playing some of these guys, but Hendry shouldn't be given a free pass, either. Had he really wanted Dubois given a good shot at the everyday spot, what was the need in re-signing Holla (after promising him more playing time) and then signing Burnitz? If Cedeno was wanted to play a lot, why re-sign Perez? Another example, Jocketty wanted Molina to start. Therefore, he didn't even really entertain an offer to Matheny to come back, nor did he sign a good veteran catcher that might enable LaRussa to play him over Molina. Sometimes the manager's decisions are only as good as the GM's decisions. Baker should be criticized, but Hendry has been his co-dependent. I liked the resigning of Hollandsworth. To me, he looked like a guy who could play the part of a Mark Sweeney. Decent outfield replacement when needed and a veteran bat off the bench with some decent punch. Baker was the one who misused him. Whether Hendry had those same intentions or not is not as obvious. I think it hurts the team to not sign a veteran bat for the bench. But, if the manager then turns around and uses the bench bat as an everyday starter, all you can do is beat your head against a wall. Especially if the manager has a contract with more than a year remaining. Maybe I'm wrong and Hendry agrees with Baker's philosophy. If that's the case, Hendry really fooled me. He gave me the impression this past offseason that Dubois would play a lot. He also spent a lot of time and effort building up the farm system. He gave me the impression that he was improving the system from the bottom up, which is a system that works. But, ever since he's had Dusty here, the philosophy seems to have changed.

Baker has treated every rookie offensive player the same. Little to no playing time regardless of how bad the veteran playing his spot is worse. With that said, Milwaukee and their 2 rookie, 2 second year player line up is tearing up the Cubs "veteran" team. Not just head to head, either. Milwaukee and their rookies have a better overall record than the Cubs. I think that's why Dusty isn't playing the kids. He can't stand to allow a team full of young, inexperienced players finish higher in the standings than his team. But, does he ever look at Atlanta, Cleveland, Oakland, etc....? Would Cleveland take Neifi Perez in trade for Jhonny Peralta? Of course not. Would Cleveland start him over Peralta? Of course not. Would Neifi lead off instead of Grady Sizemore? Of course not. Then why on Earth was Neifi playing in front of Ronnie Cedeno and why on Earth does he hit at the top of the order over Matt Murton? Dusty's philosophy might have worked in the era he played in, but it doesn't work now.

I'm getting real tired of seeing posts like this.

Let me go take a look at how Piniella structures his line ups and I'll get back to you on that. -young guy he has no choice on -young guy who outplayed an old guy -Huff -Old guy -youngish guy who hustles -old guy who's blocking a top prospect -old guy -K Gonz -Random DH :P Which one of those guys is Gomes? Will Baldelli be back fully healthy next year?

Let me go take a look at how Piniella structures his line ups and I'll get back to you on that. Better OBP in the #1 and #2 spots in the order. Probably explains why the D'Rays #3 hitters have more RBI's on the year than Derrek Lee. I'll take Piniella over Baker.

That's the way I would go. Get Walker and Nomar committed for 2006 and then worry about the outfield. Giles may or may not leave San Diego. If he shows interest in seeing what the market will bring, the Cubs should be able to put together an offer that would wow him out of San Diego. If Giles is off the market, which will be known before Furcal's situation is known, then maybe we do make a play for Furcal. If Giles and Furcal are not options, I think the next options will be to trade for upgrades. With the Rule V eligibility problem, some guys will need to be moved anyway. You would hope that these guys could be used to beef up the bullpen, but fixing that outfield has to be the bigger concern. The Cubs have much more flexibility this year than last. They have the resources to make this a good baseball team in 2006. I'd like to see Hendry get aggressive this offseason rather than sitting back waiting for the right deal to come along. He got burned big time on that last year. He needs to find the right pieces to fix this team and go get it.

Stay away, yes! However, this buy out thing looks awful nice. If only Cubs brass was that smart.

How about a big loud NO?! I don't understand the obsession with him. We do NOT need another manager with an insane love for veterans. Who would you rather have at 3rd? Alex Gonzalez or Jorge Cantu? I rest my case. That's one reason why I certainly wouldn't do it. I never understood Tampa going after a washed up Roberto Alomar, Alex Gonzalez and the other washed up players they added to their roster this past offseason.