if the bill of your cap touches the bill of the umps cap? Yes. You can't touch the ump. It's really a simple, hard and fast, reasonable rule. he didn't touch the umpire. the bill of the cap that he was wearing touched the bill of the cap that the umpire was wearing. Almost never post, but this just really bothered me. In the context of a baseball game, the player's clothing is an extension of that player. That's why when a pitched ball catches the player's shirt(or the bill of the helmet), that player is still awarded the base. It's an HIB because the clothing is part of his body. Same reason you can tag a player out by grazing his shirt(or for that matter the bill of his hat). See Rule 5.09. (And in case there's anyone out there not following, during a game, the Ump's cap is also part of his body by extension of this rule.) So in the context of a baseball game, Bradley made contact with the ump. It's really that simple I figured someone with over 30,000 posts would have watched enough baseball to know that rule, but you know what they say when you make an assumption. As to this thread in general, there really can't be any doubt that the ump made that call because it was MB up there. Its just common sense. If course whenever there's a player up to bat that has had as many problems with umps before (such as MB), the umps are clearly thinking "man if this pitch is anywhere near the zone, its a strike. This jerk player definitely needs to get screwed." It would be foolish to think otherwise, its not like their reputation (and ultimately career) hinges on their impartiality. And it is unbelievably easy to call balls and strikes at the major league level, how dare am umpire ever make a bad call. Milton should have reacted the way he did, how else would we know that he 1. cares about winning, 2. is mad, 3. is a man, 4. is tough, and 5. that the ump got it wrong. End Rant/ Careful with statements like the bolded one. Some might think it's a personal attack. And if nothing else, what does that line imply about a poster with only 12 posts and his supposed knowledge about baseball? ;)