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  1. I highly, highly doubt this. I'd be extremely surprised if they played as poorly as .500 ball the rest of the way, much less under .500. The schedule doesn't get any harder than it has been. and don't discount the impact of new arrivals Griffey, Dunn, Dye, Dotel, Gagne, Teixeira, Willis, and Santana. I'd be very surprised if we finished below .500 ;)
  2. It was Gagne to the Red Sox. thanks.
  3. wait, can we get an explanation of what this was, for those who never saw it? Purely curiosity, of course. :)
  4. Link Isn't that a couple days old? the article has today's date. can't say how recent his source told him that though
  5. Discussion does not equal belief. :D I'll rephrase, people still waste time discussing these things? This deal is very lopsided and from a message board. Apparently the poster that posted this is the only one who heard this report I'm assuming. hehe, but what does that say about taking the time to debunk something you feel is so ridiculous ;)
  6. in their defense, this year show that you can be perfectly (in fact, fantastically) effective and successful as a staff while giving up so many walks. Not saying it's a good idea -- long-term, I think it's a bad philosophy. Bit can work, for a while, it seems.
  7. agreed. Teixeira is the only name really out there right now. Heck, even rotoworld has like two updates in the past 24 hours (that aren't injury related). LAME And I hate this stupid 3 pm deadline thing. Make it midnight EST like it always used to be! There are names out there -- just not too serious yet. Griffey, Dunn, Teixeira, Gagne, Lofton, Sosa, Dotel, Santana (prob. a crap rumor), Salty, etc. I think enough minor talk is going on that, by tomorrow, teams may get desparate/ansy, and we may see some more significant moves. Or nothing of any interest may happen. I have no idea ;)
  8. there's no such thing as a guaran-damn-tee in the playoffs. Look at the Cardinals last year, Marlins of 03. The playoffs are about getting hot at the right time and having decent pitching. If anything, your statement is backwards, IMO.
  9. in hindsight, I think we can/should let up on JH now. As far as we can tell without over-speculating, he was just exploring his options and decided the Payton-option didn't fit.
  10. You are nuts. The Cubs are getting bottom of the NL barrel production from SS, CF, C and RF, and you think there are no holes? You should check Theriot's July stats and find me an NL shortstop who put up better numbers. Are you kidding me? Check Neifi's April 2005 stats. You can't seriously think his July stats negate the need for improvement at SS. I will just assume you are kidding and not really thinking something like that. It's not a flawless argument, but I think it's far from a joke. A case can be made for Neifi being the worst player ever. Theriot, in his young career, has been nothing but solid. Do you really treat a great month by these two players the same? Honestly, that sounds more like hyperbole than the last post, IMO.
  11. any doubt that a good start for Lilly locks up Pitcher of the Month for him? July Stats (5 starts before tomorrow): 5-0 1.83 ERA 34.1 IP 27 HA 9 BBs 21 Ks granted, I haven't even seen other pitchers' numbers, but that's a nice line whether it wins an award or not. Keep it up, Ted!! And give him some runs, offense!!
  12. Question for you davhern (not to be confused with davearm). What do you think of the common practice of a team sending a scout to watch a trade target play for a few games? You know, the typical stuff you hear all the time: "trade talks between the Blackjacks and the Turbos are heating up, and this weekend the Blackjacks had a scout in Mudville to watch Slugger McLain." Is that little bit of standard operating procedure that basically every MLB team follows "completely and utterly laughable" too? If you can't realize for yourself that basing a player acquisition decision on what is done over 3 games is beyond idiotic, I don't know what else to say. You're evading the question (perhaps wisely). What I'm asking is, what is your explanation for why MLB teams base player acquisition decisions upon what scouts observe over 3 games? Is it your position that the MLB teams that engage in this activity (which seems to be all 30) are "beyond idiotic?" this davearm/davhern debate is really challenging the dyslexics on the board :D
  13. This is exactly what I was thinking last season, as I had noted his dismal Septembers around the ASB. I wondered if it would be different this time since the Reds were technically in contention. He responded with his worst numbers yet, I'm afraid. Though he did draw 20 walks in September and no one else on the team was hitting. It's possible he simply wasn't getting anything to hit but still pressed to try to make something happen. I'd love to see what he'd do in a Cubs lineup as more of a complementary player, but if it doesn't happen it may be just as well. yeah, I'd forgotten about last year as I wrote that. maybe I'm biased, but I just like to think that coming to the Chicago Cubs in a playoff race would bring out the best in a player... except maybe Jason Kendall. :(
  14. I don't disagree. I suppose the only reason is the ol' heartstring angle. Griffey's trade to Cincy, as we all know, was an accomodation by Seattle. Griffey subsequently agreed with Cincy to a sweetheart deal, with millions deferred. While it may be only my perception, I think Griffey remains baseball royalty. I can't think of another player who forced a trade like he did that was not held in at least a little contempt. Such dissatisfaction never adhered to Griffey despite the trade he orchestrated. There may be a feeling that Griffey deserves his shot. Of course, there is the obvious connection with Lou that makes the Cubs that much more attractive to him. Clearly, it is counterintuitive to believe a baseball team/business would allow sentiment to dictate a move with its most high profile player. At the same time, one cannot dismiss that such sentiment has played a part in Griffey's previous move. Perhaps Griffey is just that special. Perhaps those running a once proud club steeped in tradition will harken back to its glory days and do one last favor for one of its favorite sons, Ken Griffey, Sr. Perhaps, just perhaps, its better for the game of baseball to see an aging hero once known as The Kid play once more in October. Then again, maybe Bud Selig and Barry Bonds will start a dog fighting conglomerate together... Don't forget Greg Maddux. Sure hendry blew that trade, but in his defense, he only made it because of respect for Greg. Maddux, though, certainly wasn't on the cusp of a major milestone . . . that's the part that has me most concerned about the deal. Could Griffey pass through waivers to be dealt after he hits his 600th. Granted, it could take awhile, and the price to acquire him would/should go way down, but is that realistic?
  15. Look at our FA reliever acquisitions (via trade as well, I suppose). They cost too much (look at Eyre, Howry) and are unpredictable. Marmol has been lights-out this year and, in compared to MLB salaries, is basically free still. He's more of an asset to us right now than a trading chip, IMO. (Don't get me wrong, though. If he's the dealbreaker in an offer for a huge impact bat -- more impactful than Dye, that is -- I certainly could let him go)
  16. Dunn has not consistently produced for several years. His numbers have been all over the board, actually. I posted this earlier, but the closest thing to consistency Dunn has shown is that his numbers plummet in August and September. You're really reaching here. 2004: .266/.388/.569/.957 2005: .247/.387/.540/.927 2006: .234/.365/.490/.855 2007: .263/.364/.548/.912 That's rock solid compared to targets like Dye, who have been all over the map, or targets like Payton who don't sniff Dunn's down year production. TT if you think I'm reaching, you really need to go back and read some of the earlier posts in this thread. To summarize: since he became a regular player, Dunn's played 5 Augusts, and 4 Septembers. In those 9 months, he has: 1 monthly OPS of 1000 2 monthly OPSs between 800 and 850 1 of 799 1 of 700 4 below 600. 4 of 9 below 600! That's not good. At all. Dunn being a poor late-season hitter is not just some figment of my imagination. The numbers bear it out. Maybe he gets to feeling burned out. He's been a Red his whole career - never a serious contender at this point in the year. Imagine being dropped into the middle of your first playoff hunt, playing half your games in front of ecstatic Cubs fans. Not guaranteeing that there's a significant statistical reasoning behind this, but I'd say he would feel quite invigorated if he made it to Chicago. Just my two cents.
  17. that was a great play (almost amazing). but there's no way he should have made that throw
  18. You have to file a protest that the umps violated a certain rule and you have to state what that rule was. The Soriano play was a subjective call, so the umps didn't violate any rules. but nonetheless, how does it work?
  19. If there is a 3-way deal brewing, there's a good chance that it's the Braves. Buster Olney reported that the Braves were interested in Arroyo. Saltamachia could be the chip they'd be moving, but I doubt that the Cubs could end up with Griffey and Salty. The Reds wouldn't be getting enough in that deal. So the braves would get Pie and/or Murton? what's the OF situation, other than (most likely) losing Andruw after 07?
  20. I thought the plan was understood for him to start against all lefties and the occasional righty? what we've seen so far really doesn't go against that. He was in the lineup yesterday, but was a late scratch and Bruce said he was supposed to get the start today because Lou would rather give Floyd the day off with the afternoon game after a night game. hmmm... hadn't heard that entire story yet. thanks for the fill-in. i still believe Lou knows what he's doing (or he at least is doing what he's doing on purpose, for whatever reason). But yes, it seems strange. Could Bruce expand on what he's said so far? Obviously, he can't/won't say they're trying to trade him, but for example, what has Lou said about his lineups the last couple days?
  21. I thought the plan was understood for him to start against all lefties and the occasional righty? what we've seen so far really doesn't go against that.
  22. If true, the aftermath of today's game would be more important than the outcome of the game itself.I suggested this last week in the "BCB Rumor on Adam Dunn" thread, and was pretty much called an idiot for suggesting it, but for some reason it made sense to me. Davhern finally got me off that belief but it has stuck in the back of my mind that the deadline date and this series fall close enough together it just might be. Here's hoping. To say "nothing will be announced," though, if that was the wording (and intended meaning by ESPN 1000's source), this doesn't make sense. If a deal/off is that close to being done, i.e. worth announcing, they would finish it, or they would pull the players involved.
  23. Canseco's full of "stuff"
  24. You're clearly a legit poster around here, but I'd still like to confirm from others what was said... hope you understand :) Well PSD Forum and Cubs.com forum each have a thread about it too Fair enough. I'll consider a "legitimate rumor" -- not that that means a whole lot :lol:
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