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Minor League Discussion & Boxes 7-27-2007
Electron Blue replied to Slugger_16's topic in Cubs Minor League Talk
excellent. can we get any more of a detailed analysis? Cubs.com says: Wood, who threw 12 pitches . . . This was his first back-to-back test . . . The radar gun at O'Brien Field registered his fastball between 92-94 mph. The Cubs were expected to determine the next phase of Wood's rehab after they see how the right-hander feels on Saturday. Link -
having griffey and lohse > having neither but Lohse is still nothing special
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Um..... I'm surprised SD gave Hairston as much time as they did before pulling the plug on that experiment.
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the pitch count will not be his friend. hopefully we can light up arroyo, allowing our bullpen a decent margin of error, since they may need to pitch 4+ innings today. rich still has time to straighten that out, though.... a couple 10-pitch innings would do wonders.
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Dunn. Griffey. :)
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The chemistry problems were the icing on the cake. The defensive lapses (which were always a problem, but were at their worst this year) along with the terrible offense (OBP of .307 :(), made his leash very short. What do you mean his performances would make him more affordable to us? His performance is why we shouldn't want him for even $1M per year. The defense was always bad and the offense as I said (and numerous studies support) was unlikely to pickup, given his age/position. Replacing a bad player with worse players is a bad idea. You can talk about getting rid of a bad player, but that only helps you if you have a better player to replace him with. The Cubs didn't. Rob Bowen's Pros (in order of importance) .268/.371/.439, OPS+ 120 Significantly better defense League-minimum salary, signed through next year 26 years-old Has never punched opponent, or own pitcher Why is he worse?
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Honestly I agree with your assessment of a return of Izturis The chemistry problems were the icing on the cake. The defensive lapses (which were always a problem, but were at their worst this year) along with the terrible offense (OBP of .307 :(), made his leash very short. What do you mean his performances would make him more affordable to us? His performance is why we shouldn't want him for even $1M per year. The defense was always bad and the offense as I said (and numerous studies support) was unlikely to pickup, given his age/position.
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It definitely was that. I guess what I was actually thinking was that it was technically two separate trades (Expos-A's and Cubs-A's) but in effect a three-team trade. if i remember, though, it was a couple days in the making.
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I'll play devil's advocate for Hendry, though. Maddux for Izturis Consensus was that Maddux was pretty much done as a solid starter. No one on this board wanted to him back the next year, especially not at the price he would have wanted. The Cubs weren't going anywhere. Hendry took a chance on a gold-glove SS whose potential indicated his hitting would pick up. EDITED TO ADD: Many believed Maddux and Hendry had a handshake agreement to give him to a contender if the cubs were tanking. Barrett for Bowen If clubhouse distraction were ever a legit. cause to trade a player, this was it. Mulitple flare-ups would have been one thing were they isolated. But Barrett, a catcher past the age of productive catcher years, was having a bad year offensively and an abysmal year behind the plate. Bowen was cheap, young, had a decent OBP, and virtually guarenteed better defense. Like Maddux, Barrett was not coming back the next year. A certain (if negligible) amount of budget room was freed up with this trade as well, allowing flexibility of deadline/August moves. Pierre for Prospects no devil's advocacy here :( I guess we . . . needed a "lead-off hitter"[/b]
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I generally agree/hope that the Hamburgler will be able to pull off a decent trade for an power hitter. Hendry is pretty deft at making moves. He's hit 3 big ones (Lee, Ramirez, Nomar) and the rest haven't been all that good. Karros/Grudz Lofton (along with Ramirez) Barrett Partial list of bad Hendry trades: Maddux-Izturis Barrett-Bowen Prospects-Pierre His track record is mixed, like most. Agreed. I was just adding to the Pros, which I felt was under-represented in Erik's list
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I would think that's likely, and I'd also expect them to keep Floyd out as well. Maybe Murton will start his first game back after all. Suicide lineup if so Soriano Theriot Lee DeRosa Fontenot Jones Murton Kendall ??? :x Anyone listening to Cincy radio? Who is this hick who gets Victor Santos and Ron Santo mixed up?? I remember the last time I heard the time "suicide lineup": Soriano, LF Theriot, SS Ward, 1B Floyd, RF DeRosa, 3B Fontenot, 2B Jones, CF Hill, K, C Zambrano 12 runs scored
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There's that big bat the padres need so badly!!
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I generally agree/hope that the Hamburgler will be able to pull off a decent trade for an power hitter. Hendry is pretty deft at making moves. He's hit 3 big ones (Lee, Ramirez, Nomar) and the rest haven't been all that good. Karros/Grudz Lofton (along with Ramirez) Barrett
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i don't hate it... but Murton/Hill/Marshall/Pie better not be a part of it. plus, if Hendry wants Dunn for himself, would he actually HELP another team get him. seems like he'd try and get him for himself if a deal like that were close.
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Sosa could be released
Electron Blue replied to Flames24Rulz's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
His name is Sammy Sosa and he has 70RBIs which means you can't send him down to the minors. Regardless of the name and his stats, I just don't think that's possible. Taking a year off and signing a minor league deal doesn't change the fact that his service time allows him to reject the assignment, and would require that he pass waivers. -
He wrote this at 1:15 am, well after the Iowa game was over. That might be my bad. I sent him an email around 11 pm central telling him what was going on, and that there had been no indications of an injury to that point. congratulations on being the source of a bogus story! Pish posh. I clearly outlined that it was only something to keep an eye on or to kick the tires around on... nothing to go to print with. I think Truffle was just being tongue-in-cheek. But whatever the case, myself (and surely others) appreciate your report of the situation. Any possibility is worthy of discussion at least, even if the discussion results in the discrediting of that very possibility. :)
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What is three games going to show the Reds, especially since he's not even starting tonight? mlbtraderumors says Levine mentioned any deal would probably involve Gallagher and Murton. Beats me. I typically don't take what this Bruce says too seriously though I will report it here as a "service" to my non-Chicago friends here; now the other Bruce, friend of NSBB, if he were to say it, it would be as good as gold in my book. i think we all feel the same way on that point. it would be interesting to hear BM's take -- if for no other reason than to hear why Levine believes this, even if it isn't all that credible. :Bruce Signal: I don't know that BM is an appropriate nickname for Bruce, seeing as how most people use it to stand for bowel movement. Now Jay Marrioti on the other hand... Not even associates those initials with crap. Sincerely, Brian Moser (aka Electron Blue)
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They would call him up 4 days before the deadline to "showcase" him. Typical Cubs logic. To be fair to JH (for some reason ;)), perhaps the Reds have told the CUbs they're interested in Murt. So then the Cubs decided to call him up. As a favor to the reds, not an unprovoked showcase...
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How are we showcasing him if he's on the bench? They're going to have a scout sit in the dugout and check out his attitude and leadership abilities. They also want to check if the shade of his hair matches their logo. Nice :D
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What is three games going to show the Reds, especially since he's not even starting tonight? mlbtraderumors says Levine mentioned any deal would probably involve Gallagher and Murton. Beats me. I typically don't take what this Bruce says too seriously though I will report it here as a "service" to my non-Chicago friends here; now the other Bruce, friend of NSBB, if he were to say it, it would be as good as gold in my book. i think we all feel the same way on that point. it would be interesting to hear BM's take -- if for no other reason than to hear why Levine believes this, even if it isn't all that credible. :Bruce Signal:
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:shock: maybe i shouldn't be surprised, but i am thanks, hoops
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Sosa could be released
Electron Blue replied to Flames24Rulz's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
Can you say "CANCER" No thanks. This years team is all about TEAM. It's pretty clear Lou doesn't like sideshows and feels, despite the #'s, it's counter productive to winning. Have you read any of the reports about the 2007 version of Sosa - model teammate, hard worker, etc, etc? well, other than the boombox thing, no one really said anything negative about him until his last year with the Cubs. PR can be a powerful force. -
I don't think they're getting Griffey. Lou will let us know in a few minutes what the plan is. boy, you know you're overly optimistic when a "I don't think..." is taken as a positive. AT LEAST BRUCE DIDN'T SAY WE'RE NOT GETTING GRIFFEY! ;) Oh trade deadline, you've grabbed my again.
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i actually expect the padres to win the West if they can get a bat, and the Brewers to get the WC
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He was just very under the weather. He showed up to the game last night looking very sick, and Ron and Corey had to argue with him to get him to just go home and rest. He suspects it could have been something he ate, and he is day to day, so a stint on the DL is not expected. :lol: