I'm not getting in the middle of your Marquis debate, just wanted to point out that since June 3rd, the day after Piniella's eruption and the day his suspension began, the Cubs have averaged 5.02 runs per game. which means they aren't scoring 5+ everyday. yep. and you know what an ERA of 5.00 would mean...? if we're predicting a player's/team's future performance, what else do we have but averages? well, if we're saying he's only going to go 6 innings per start with a 5.00 ERA, that means he'd be giving up 3 1/3 runs per outing, which means 5+ runs scored would win every game (assuming the bullpen holds on) huzzah!! Marquis is gonna own the win column in the second half!!! the point is, you can't say 5 runs and a 5.00 ERA are the same. You also can't say that every game will be what the averages say oh... are we disagreeing? I was being sarcastic in my first post :) I meant that stichface's assumption was flawed: that marquis's 5.00 ERA would be bad since the cubs don't score 5 runs everyday. Both averages feature totals above and below the number. you're right, though. SInce a 5.00 pitcher doesn't throw 9 in. every start, "he" doesn't give up 5 runs. I didn't get into that specific point since, like I said, I was being facetious. ;)