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What a douche'.

 

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/cs-051204rogers,1,499236.column?coll=cs-home-utility

 

 

Here's my favorite part:

 

Sure, Ned Colletti overpaid, giving Furcal $13 million a year for three years. But the Cubs don't get to whine about that, not after the contracts they just gave to relievers Ryan Dempster, Bob Howry and Scott Eyre. Rebuilding the bullpen was a must, but will that matter if the lineup isn't significantly improved?

 

Depending on who you talk to...(I believe Hendry had foresight, instead of people thinking he set the trend) signing Howry, Eyre, and Dempster to their contracts are looking like BARGAINS, now. And how does slighty ovepaying a couple of relievers, equate to GROSSLY overpaying a very good, not great, SS?

 

Rogers must have some beyond beliefs type pictures of the upper managment of the Cubs, cause there is no way this douchebag should still be writing for the Tribune.

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Actually, I think Rogers is on target for once. Hendry bungled the Furcal and Pierre matters by not closing the deal early, when he had the chance. The Dodgers were a complete non-factor until 6 short days ago. He should have signed Furcal right after the infamous "dinner date."

 

As for Pierre, Hendry could have closed that deal before Florida began their fire sale, Pierre wasn't in high demand then and Hendry simply would have parted with his precious, "untouchable" Rich Hill, he'd have Pierre in the bag.

 

Too late now for Donut Boy. His tenure, along with the Dust Unit, can now be measured in months. The gloves are off, the natives are angry, and we will be second-rate yet again in 2006.

 

But hey, at least we got Neifi signed early!! Goodness knows there was high demand for an all-star like that.

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I honestly think Rogers has some, unknown to us, personal reasons to write what he does about the Cubs.

 

He IS a White Sox fan, you know this, yes, Yoda asks?

 

I didn't know that, actually - and it goes a long way to explaining some things. But what I detect from his writings is an air of personal disliking towards the Cubs, like Steve Stone. Maybe it's just me.

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grea post.......I sure am tired of this crap.....this has a big chance to be a real crappy season......

 

Actually, I think Rogers is on target for once. Hendry bungled the Furcal and Pierre matters by not closing the deal early, when he had the chance. The Dodgers were a complete non-factor until 6 short days ago. He should have signed Furcal right after the infamous "dinner date."

 

As for Pierre, Hendry could have closed that deal before Florida began their fire sale, Pierre wasn't in high demand then and Hendry simply would have parted with his precious, "untouchable" Rich Hill, he'd have Pierre in the bag.

 

Too late now for Donut Boy. His tenure, along with the Dust Unit, can now be measured in months. The gloves are off, the natives are angry, and we will be second-rate yet again in 2006.

 

But hey, at least we got Neifi signed early!! Goodness knows there was high demand for an all-star like that.

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If by "close the deal early" you mean "offer him $13 mil first" then, no thanks.

 

We did things the right way, his agent set a starting price, we offered it, blowing the closest competing offer off the table. No way do I go over 5/50. Not a chance. The Dodgers came out of nowhere, and it was game over. We couldn't forsee a [expletive] with a checkbook coming to the dance...

 

And again, on the Pierre front, if you mean "close the deal early" by including Pie or something, no thanks. Until Pierre is dealt we haven't messed that one up.

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Actually, I think Rogers is on target for once. Hendry bungled the Furcal and Pierre matters by not closing the deal early, when he had the chance. The Dodgers were a complete non-factor until 6 short days ago. He should have signed Furcal right after the infamous "dinner date."

 

As for Pierre, Hendry could have closed that deal before Florida began their fire sale, Pierre wasn't in high demand then and Hendry simply would have parted with his precious, "untouchable" Rich Hill, he'd have Pierre in the bag.

 

Too late now for Donut Boy. His tenure, along with the Dust Unit, can now be measured in months. The gloves are off, the natives are angry, and we will be second-rate yet again in 2006.

 

But hey, at least we got Neifi signed early!! Goodness knows there was high demand for an all-star like that.

 

And just how was he supposed to get Furcal to sign early? Pin him to the floor, shove a pen in his hand and force him to scribble his name on the dotted line? Furcal is not the first free agent to wait until a late suitor comes along with an offer he can't refus and he won't be the last.

 

You point on Pierre is a little harder to argue, although once news of a player's availability gets out, other GM's swoop in with offers of their own, clouding up the picture.

 

Your point on Perez is impossible to ignore.

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Actually, I think Rogers is on target for once. Hendry bungled the Furcal and Pierre matters by not closing the deal early, when he had the chance. The Dodgers were a complete non-factor until 6 short days ago. He should have signed Furcal right after the infamous "dinner date."

 

As for Pierre, Hendry could have closed that deal before Florida began their fire sale, Pierre wasn't in high demand then and Hendry simply would have parted with his precious, "untouchable" Rich Hill, he'd have Pierre in the bag.

 

Too late now for Donut Boy. His tenure, along with the Dust Unit, can now be measured in months. The gloves are off, the natives are angry, and we will be second-rate yet again in 2006.

 

But hey, at least we got Neifi signed early!! Goodness knows there was high demand for an all-star like that.

 

I disagree, Furcal's agent didn't allow him to close the deal because there were other teams showing interest. Colleti no doubt contacted Kinzer and asked that the process be extended so he could present a proposal. Colletti, like Hendry, said he wanted Furcal. Obviously, he was willing to grossly overpay. To somehow suggest that the Cubs not getting Furcal was a "big blunder" is ridiculous.

 

On another note, Phil Rogers is just bad and provides inaccurate information:

 

 

Would the Cubs consider dealing one of their aces if they could sign, say, A.J. Burnett or even Kevin Millwood? They might if the Phillies would put a young pitcher like Gavin Floyd or Cole Hamels in the deal.

 

Why would the Cubs need to deal one of the aces to get a free agent Phil??? :roll: :roll: Link

 

He also briefly suggested that the Cubs would trade Wood if he were healthy. When the truth is they'd have to consult with him because of his full NTC.

 

Rogers comes off as a disgruntled employee with an axe to grind. There's nothing wrong with being critical when it is warranted however, his "reporting" is rarely balanced. To suggest that Dusty's inability to lure FA had anything to do with Furcal's decision is ludicrous. The Cubs could have had him for 14MM per year. Thankfully, it didn't come to that.

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Actually, I think Rogers is on target for once. Hendry bungled the Furcal and Pierre matters by not closing the deal early, when he had the chance. The Dodgers were a complete non-factor until 6 short days ago. He should have signed Furcal right after the infamous "dinner date."

 

As for Pierre, Hendry could have closed that deal before Florida began their fire sale, Pierre wasn't in high demand then and Hendry simply would have parted with his precious, "untouchable" Rich Hill, he'd have Pierre in the bag.

 

Too late now for Donut Boy. His tenure, along with the Dust Unit, can now be measured in months. The gloves are off, the natives are angry, and we will be second-rate yet again in 2006.

 

But hey, at least we got Neifi signed early!! Goodness knows there was high demand for an all-star like that.

 

So how exactly should Hendry have "closed" these deals early? What should he have done?

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Actually, I think Rogers is on target for once. Hendry bungled the Furcal and Pierre matters by not closing the deal early, when he had the chance. The Dodgers were a complete non-factor until 6 short days ago. He should have signed Furcal right after the infamous "dinner date."

 

As for Pierre, Hendry could have closed that deal before Florida began their fire sale, Pierre wasn't in high demand then and Hendry simply would have parted with his precious, "untouchable" Rich Hill, he'd have Pierre in the bag.

 

Too late now for Donut Boy. His tenure, along with the Dust Unit, can now be measured in months. The gloves are off, the natives are angry, and we will be second-rate yet again in 2006.

 

But hey, at least we got Neifi signed early!! Goodness knows there was high demand for an all-star like that.

 

I can't believe you agree with Rogers on this one. How do you know Hendry didn't try to seal the deal with Furcal when you suggested, but Furcal wanted more time to weigh his options? He said quite awhile ago he was going to take up to the winter meetings to decide. There was no sealing the deal early without offering something so ridiculous that it was a no brainer, and that would have been a worse screw up. Secondly, how do you know that FL would have swapped Pierre for Hill? The beginning point of conversations from their side of the table was beginning with Pie plus other pitching prospects. He didn't screw a single thing up, and all isn't lost yet. We could still end up with Wilkerson and Bradley rounding out the outfield, RonnyC and TWalk in the MIF. If TWalk can't catch the ball good enough for him, he can include him in a deal for another 2B. That's a good lineup at Dusty's disposal. Now weather or not he chooses to use it... Either way, the only real knock you can put on Hendry at this point is his ridiculous insistance on keeping Dusty as the manager.

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