Could This Happen?

[Hosak8]

It's late (or early, depending on who you ask) and I can't sleep, so I've been toying with an idea. This goes a little bit along with the Cubs/Dodgers rumor. Could this scenario happen.. and if so, what would you think?

 

1. Sign Furcal. No brainer.

 

2. Go ahead with the LA trade, using Cedeno, Rusch and CPatt.

 

3. Offer Oakland Williams and Hill for Zito. Throw in Sing, if necessary.

 

4. Deal Kerry and Mitre to Philly for Abreu. (If not Kerry, make it Lowe)

 

Rotation would be: Zambrano, Prior, Zito, Lowe (or Wood), and Maddux

 

Lineup:

1. Furcal, SS

2. Walker, 2B

3. Lee, 1B

4. Abreu, RF

5. Ramirez, 3B

6. Bradley, CF

7. Murton, LF

8. Barrett, C

 

Sure, it would be costly in terms of money, but wouldn't that lineup give us a great shot at our first title in 98 years?

Edited December 3, 2005 by Hosak8

[Bear Cub]

I dont believe that trading will happen. I cant see anybody taking a chance on him until they see if he can even throw. 12.5 million reasons why not.

[Hosak8]

I dont believe that trading will happen. I cant see anybody taking a chance on him until they see if he can even throw. 12.5 million reasons why not.

 

Maybe not, so you sweeten it however you can. If that won't work, deal them Lowe and we'll keep Wood.

Edited December 3, 2005 by Hosak8

[Hosak8]

Just guessing that these moves give us a 102 million dollar payroll. Edited December 3, 2005 by Hosak8

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

1. At this point, I won't cry about that, but I'd rather play Cedeno at SS and save 10-12M per year.

2. It looks like Cedeno isn't going to play 2B in Venezuela. If Furcal is signed, Cedeno has pretty much no chance to play under Baker with Neifi around. We might as well get something for him.

3. I don't think that's enough to get Zito. Beane doesn't have to move Zito this offseason.

4. Wood has a NTC (always mentioned when the Wood trade talk occurs) and I don't see him loving Philly.

[CuseCubFan69]

1. At this point, I won't cry about that, but I'd rather play Cedeno at SS and save 10-12M per year.

2. It looks like Cedeno isn't going to play 2B in Venezuela. If Furcal is signed, Cedeno has pretty much no chance to play under Baker with Neifi around. We might as well get something for him.

3. I don't think that's enough to get Zito. Beane doesn't have to move Zito this offseason.

4. Wood has a NTC (always mentioned when the Wood trade talk occurs) and I don't see him loving Philly.

 

That's funny because I thought it was overpaying for Zito. I would rather have Williams and Hill on the Cubs then a guy that is going to be a free agent next year.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

1. At this point, I won't cry about that, but I'd rather play Cedeno at SS and save 10-12M per year.

2. It looks like Cedeno isn't going to play 2B in Venezuela. If Furcal is signed, Cedeno has pretty much no chance to play under Baker with Neifi around. We might as well get something for him.

3. I don't think that's enough to get Zito. Beane doesn't have to move Zito this offseason.

4. Wood has a NTC (always mentioned when the Wood trade talk occurs) and I don't see him loving Philly.

 

That's funny because I thought it was overpaying for Zito. I would rather have Williams and Hill on the Cubs then a guy that is going to be a free agent next year.

 

At a risk of sounding like a troll - Williams and Hill trade values are vastly over rated on this board. I've noticed most most forums (like CardsTalk) tend to over value their own players tho.

[XZero771679666304]

1. At this point, I won't cry about that, but I'd rather play Cedeno at SS and save 10-12M per year.

2. It looks like Cedeno isn't going to play 2B in Venezuela. If Furcal is signed, Cedeno has pretty much no chance to play under Baker with Neifi around. We might as well get something for him.

3. I don't think that's enough to get Zito. Beane doesn't have to move Zito this offseason.

4. Wood has a NTC (always mentioned when the Wood trade talk occurs) and I don't see him loving Philly.

 

That's funny because I thought it was overpaying for Zito. I would rather have Williams and Hill on the Cubs then a guy that is going to be a free agent next year.

 

 

 

At a risk of sounding like a troll - Williams and Hill trade values are vastly over rated on this board. I've noticed most most forums (like CardsTalk) tend to over value their own players tho.

 

I agree about Hill, he is very overvalued by many around here. Williams I would rather keep. I think Zito would bolt right back to the west coast after 2006, so I wouldn't give up too much for him, but I wouldn't hesitate to deal Hill and other prospects for him.

[RockTheIvy]

1. At this point, I won't cry about that, but I'd rather play Cedeno at SS and save 10-12M per year.

2. It looks like Cedeno isn't going to play 2B in Venezuela. If Furcal is signed, Cedeno has pretty much no chance to play under Baker with Neifi around. We might as well get something for him.

3. I don't think that's enough to get Zito. Beane doesn't have to move Zito this offseason.

4. Wood has a NTC (always mentioned when the Wood trade talk occurs) and I don't see him loving Philly.

 

That's funny because I thought it was overpaying for Zito. I would rather have Williams and Hill on the Cubs then a guy that is going to be a free agent next year.

 

At a risk of sounding like a troll - Williams and Hill trade values are vastly over rated on this board. I've noticed most most forums (like CardsTalk) tend to over value their own players tho.

 

That is true. Wellemeyer and Mitre tend to be others. It's pretty comical when they show up in big trades, IMO.

[USSoccer]

I'll give you Wellemeyer, Mitre and Hill, but Williams has real value.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I'll give you Wellemeyer, Mitre and Hill, but Williams has real value.

 

If Williams had enough innings to qualify(remember his best work was in September, so it's not as if he was fading), he would've been 25th in the NL in ERA, between Penny and Livan. He didn't have amazing peripherals, but for a guy who turns 24 tomorrow, he certainly is valuable.

[RockTheIvy]

I'll give you Wellemeyer, Mitre and Hill, but Williams has real value.

 

Also true. There aren't many 23 year old starters who have been in a World Series and a have a career ERA below 4.00. I would actually be okay keeping Williams, but I know he is a very good trading chip.

[USSoccer]

I'll give you Wellemeyer, Mitre and Hill, but Williams has real value.

 

Also true. There aren't many 23 year old starters who have been in a World Series and a have a career ERA below 4.00. I would actually be okay keeping Williams, but I know he is a very good trading chip.

 

I would rather keep him and maximize a strength then rely on Hill and Rusch to be the 5th starter (assuming Wood is back and healthy).

[RockTheIvy]

I'll give you Wellemeyer, Mitre and Hill, but Williams has real value.

 

Also true. There aren't many 23 year old starters who have been in a World Series and a have a career ERA below 4.00. I would actually be okay keeping Williams, but I know he is a very good trading chip.

 

I would rather keep him and maximize a strength then rely on Hill and Rusch to be the 5th starter (assuming Wood is back and healthy).

 

Which is why the Rusch signing is so blowgus. He's crappy out of the pen, where we have 2 lefties already.

[USSoccer]

I'll give you Wellemeyer, Mitre and Hill, but Williams has real value.

 

Also true. There aren't many 23 year old starters who have been in a World Series and a have a career ERA below 4.00. I would actually be okay keeping Williams, but I know he is a very good trading chip.

 

I would rather keep him and maximize a strength then rely on Hill and Rusch to be the 5th starter (assuming Wood is back and healthy).

 

Which is why the Rusch signing is so blowgus. He's crappy out of the pen, where we have 2 lefties already.

 

I'm sure it's based in the thought that Wood might not be ready for Opening Day, which, if Hendry had managed the roster properly last August, would never have happened. There was no reason to jeapordize Wood's 2006 for the sake of having him pitch out of the pen for 3 weeks.

[RockTheIvy]

It's just like your sig though- they had Williams doing a better job than Rusch at next to nothing. Why sign him?

[USSoccer]

It's just like your sig though- they had Williams doing a better job than Rusch at next to nothing. Why sign him?

 

Hendry and baker seem to need the MLB equivalent of security blankets.

[RockTheIvy]

It's just like your sig though- they had Williams doing a better job than Rusch at next to nothing. Why sign him?

 

Hendry and baker seem to need the MLB equivalent of security blankets.

 

Oh like this?

 

http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/2353/linusblanket3pw.jpg

[jmajew]

With Regards to Zito, I could see him being a part of a three team deal involving the Cubs. Ex: Zito to Philly, Abreu to the Cubs, and Jason Michaels, Rich Hill, and other prospects to the A's. (Hopefully one more from each Philly and the Cubs). We may have to give up a bit more than what I am theorizing but I think I get my point across. I really don't know exactly how it would work out.

[USSoccer]

It's just like your sig though- they had Williams doing a better job than Rusch at next to nothing. Why sign him?

 

Hendry and baker seem to need the MLB equivalent of security blankets.

 

Oh like this?

 

http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/2353/linusblanket3pw.jpg

 

exactly!