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Free-agent Twins outfielder Jacques Jones, who was paid $5 million by Minnesota last season, could end up with a $20 million, three-year offer from the St. Louis Cardinals soon.

 

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Free-agent Twins outfielder Jacques Jones, who was paid $5 million by Minnesota last season, could end up with a $20 million, three-year offer from the St. Louis Cardinals soon.

 

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Jones wouldn't be a bad fit in St. Louis. They don't need the same type of player the Cubs do.

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Free-agent Twins outfielder Jacques Jones, who was paid $5 million by Minnesota last season, could end up with a $20 million, three-year offer from the St. Louis Cardinals soon.

 

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Jones wouldn't be a bad fit in St. Louis. They don't need the same type of player the Cubs do.

 

Still, almost $7 million per year for Jones? They could spend another $3 million a year and get Giles.

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Free-agent Twins outfielder Jacques Jones, who was paid $5 million by Minnesota last season, could end up with a $20 million, three-year offer from the St. Louis Cardinals soon.

 

Please be true...

 

Jones wouldn't be a bad fit in St. Louis. They don't need the same type of player the Cubs do.

 

What kind of players do they need then? Bad players?

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Free-agent Twins outfielder Jacques Jones, who was paid $5 million by Minnesota last season, could end up with a $20 million, three-year offer from the St. Louis Cardinals soon.

 

Please be true...

 

Jones wouldn't be a bad fit in St. Louis. They don't need the same type of player the Cubs do.

 

What kind of players do they need then? Bad players?

 

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Free-agent Twins outfielder Jacques Jones, who was paid $5 million by Minnesota last season, could end up with a $20 million, three-year offer from the St. Louis Cardinals soon.

 

Please be true...

 

Jones wouldn't be a bad fit in St. Louis. They don't need the same type of player the Cubs do.

 

What kind of players do they need then? Bad players?

 

yes :D

 

In seriousness he is not that bad. but if the money is true that would be a bad contract. Very bad.

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Free-agent Twins outfielder Jacques Jones, who was paid $5 million by Minnesota last season, could end up with a $20 million, three-year offer from the St. Louis Cardinals soon.

 

Please be true...

 

Jones wouldn't be a bad fit in St. Louis. They don't need the same type of player the Cubs do.

 

What kind of players do they need then? Bad players?

 

yes :D

 

In seriousness he is not that bad. but if the money is true that would be a bad contract. Very bad.

 

He's a GG caliber OF & a mediocre hitter. JJ would be a nice fit for the Cards. He is a 6-8 type hitter in that order.

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Free-agent Twins outfielder Jacques Jones, who was paid $5 million by Minnesota last season, could end up with a $20 million, three-year offer from the St. Louis Cardinals soon.

 

Please be true...

 

Jones wouldn't be a bad fit in St. Louis. They don't need the same type of player the Cubs do.

 

What kind of players do they need then? Bad players?

 

Are you taking into consideration what kind of player he will become when puts on a red uniform ??? :wink:

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Free-agent Twins outfielder Jacques Jones, who was paid $5 million by Minnesota last season, could end up with a $20 million, three-year offer from the St. Louis Cardinals soon.

 

Please be true...

 

Jones wouldn't be a bad fit in St. Louis. They don't need the same type of player the Cubs do.

 

What kind of players do they need then? Bad players?

 

Are you taking into consideration what kind of player he will become when puts on a red uniform ??? :wink:

 

No crap...he signs that contract and I predict a .315 ba/.385 obp season with a power resurgence and possibly a nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize.

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Are the Cards bringing back Reggie Sanders? Seems like Jones would probably come just short of equalling Sanders' production.

 

It would be nice if the Cards' streak of finding gold in the scrap heap would finally run out.

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Free-agent Twins outfielder Jacques Jones, who was paid $5 million by Minnesota last season, could end up with a $20 million, three-year offer from the St. Louis Cardinals soon.

 

Please be true...

 

Jones wouldn't be a bad fit in St. Louis. They don't need the same type of player the Cubs do.

 

What kind of players do they need then? Bad players?

 

yes :D

 

In seriousness he is not that bad. but if the money is true that would be a bad contract. Very bad.

 

He's a GG caliber OF & a mediocre hitter. JJ would be a nice fit for the Cards. He is a 6-8 type hitter in that order.

 

I don't think there's much doubt that Jacque Jones is good enough defensively to be able to handle centre field with relative ease. However, assuming the Cardinals aren't intent upon moving Jim Edmonds elsewhere, Jones would be occupying a corner outfield spot, where his defence is obviously more impressive but considerably less important.

 

To describe Jacque Jones as a "mediocre hitter" is just plain wrong. Over the last two years the average National League corner outfielder hit .272/.353/.464, against which Jones' .251/.317/.432 stacks up very unfavourably. Even Jones' career numbers, .279/.327/.455, which include a 2001-03 run that's not particularly likely to be repeated, given that it coincided with what you'd expect to be his peak years and that he's now the wrong side of 30, don't measure up.

 

One other thing worth pointing out is that Jones' career numbers, as with all his numbers, don't tell the full story. Jones is a hitter desperately in need of a platoon partner. Over the last two years, Jones has hit a pretty unremarkable .263/.328/.466 against right-handed pitchers. Against left-handers though, .223/.289/.350. For his entire career, .294/.341/.488 against righties, .227/.277/.339 versus southpaws. Jones is not a player you can run out there everyday, though the Twins never really did figure that out.

 

So you have a guy that's above average defensively at a position where defence is a very secondary concern, that's below average with the bat, and that needs to be platooned. He's a good runner, but a poor basestealer. He does at least stay healthy, and he's not a problem in the clubhouse as far as I'm aware. That's Jacque Jones. A perfect fourth outfielder, perhaps. An acceptable starter on a team without any real championship ambitions. But most definately not a guy that should be anywhere near a team that wants to win it all, and not a guy you want to be paying any more than about $3-4m. As for multiple years, he ought to be able to forget about it.

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Free-agent Twins outfielder Jacques Jones, who was paid $5 million by Minnesota last season, could end up with a $20 million, three-year offer from the St. Louis Cardinals soon.

 

Please be true...

 

Jones wouldn't be a bad fit in St. Louis. They don't need the same type of player the Cubs do.

 

What kind of players do they need then? Bad players?

 

Yeah, i don't get that comment. If a guy's stats stink don't they stink no matter what cap he wears?

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Free-agent Twins outfielder Jacques Jones, who was paid $5 million by Minnesota last season, could end up with a $20 million, three-year offer from the St. Louis Cardinals soon.

 

Please be true...

 

Jones wouldn't be a bad fit in St. Louis. They don't need the same type of player the Cubs do.

 

What kind of players do they need then? Bad players?

 

yes :D

 

In seriousness he is not that bad. but if the money is true that would be a bad contract. Very bad.

 

Yeah, he probably isn't that bad. Would you be okay with the Cubs giving him, say, 2 years and 10 mill?

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Come on you guys, Jones is a good player. It's the 7M a year thats bad, not Jones. Believe it or not Jacque has one of the quickest bats in the AL.

 

That quick bat hasn't helped his numbers.

 

I'm glad the Cards are about to sign Jones for two reasons:

 

1. It means the Cubs won't sign Jones.

2. It means the Cards aren't likely to sign Giles.

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Come on you guys, Jones is a good player. It's the 7M a year thats bad, not Jones. Believe it or not Jacque has one of the quickest bats in the AL.

 

In what way is he a good player?

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Come on you guys, Jones is a good player. It's the 7M a year thats bad, not Jones. Believe it or not Jacque has one of the quickest bats in the AL.

So he's a good player even though paying him like a good player is a stupid idea? cognitive dissonance?

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