We've come a long way in a decade.

[fearthecubs]

Jamie Navarro 15-12, 3.92
Frank Castillo 7-16, 5.28
Jim Bullinger 6-10, 6.54
Amaury Telemaco 5-7, 5.46
Kevin Foster 7-6, 6.21

[Omar]

What year was that?

[fearthecubs]

1996, compare that to our potential 2006 staff. It's a lot harder for me to complain having lived through nightmares like Foster, Young, and Morgan.

[Derwood]

Did you forget the likes of Derrick May, Scott Bullet, Ozzie Timmons, Steve Buechele, Rick Wilkins, etc. Not sure if they were all on the '96 team, but there were some rough players out there

 

 

EDIT: http://baseball-almanac.com/teamstats/roster.php?y=1996&t=CHN

[David]

1996, compare that to our potential 2006 staff. It's a lot harder for me to complain having lived through nightmares like Foster, Young, and Morgan.

 

Foster was one of the lone bright spots on the staff for a couple years (esp. 97). Of course, that's more of an indication of how bad our staff/team was. Navarro had a good season in 95 too. Castillo had a solid 95, but was a disaster after that.

 

Ah, memories. LOL

[Gunned]

Just because the 1996 rotation was awful doesn't mean I'll sit idly by and accept a back end of the rotation that includes an ineffective Greg Maddux and Glendon Rusch.

 

It's this kind of thinking that lets Cubs' management get excited over things like back-to-back winning seasons and "staying close despite injuries." It's pathetic and it's a large part of the reason the Cubs are nearing 100 years without a championship.

[David]

Just because the 1996 rotation was awful doesn't mean I'll sit idly by and accept a back end of the rotation that includes an ineffective Greg Maddux and Glendon Rusch.

 

It's this kind of thinking that lets Cubs' management get excited over things like back-to-back winning seasons and "staying close despite injuries." It's pathetic and it's a large part of the reason the Cubs are nearing 100 years without a championship.

 

Agreed completely.

[Jehrico]

Just because the 1996 rotation was awful doesn't mean I'll sit idly by and accept a back end of the rotation that includes an ineffective Greg Maddux and Glendon Rusch.

 

It's this kind of thinking that lets Cubs' management get excited over things like back-to-back winning seasons and "staying close despite injuries." It's pathetic and it's a large part of the reason the Cubs are nearing 100 years without a championship.

 

From all reports, Hendry does want to acquire another starter to improve the rotation this year.

[RockTheIvy]

Just because the 1996 rotation was awful doesn't mean I'll sit idly by and accept a back end of the rotation that includes an ineffective Greg Maddux and Glendon Rusch.

 

It's this kind of thinking that lets Cubs' management get excited over things like back-to-back winning seasons and "staying close despite injuries." It's pathetic and it's a large part of the reason the Cubs are nearing 100 years without a championship.

 

That and the Curse.

[Mizzou]

Jamie Navarro 15-12, 3.92
Frank Castillo 7-16, 5.28
Jim Bullinger 6-10, 6.54
Amaury Telemaco 5-7, 5.46
Kevin Foster 7-6, 6.21

 

Don't forget about Steve Trachsel - he was on that team as well.

 

And for some reason, I always liked Jim Bullinger. Maybe it was cause he was so goofy looking. And was '96 the year that Castillo was an out away from a no hitter in that night game at Wrigley?

[J.R.]

And was '96 the year that Castillo was an out away from a no hitter in that night game at Wrigley?

 

That was in '95; that game set off the winning streak that had us in contention for the wild card going into the last weekend.

[Illini Iceman]

Jamie Navarro 15-12, 3.92
Frank Castillo 7-16, 5.28
Jim Bullinger 6-10, 6.54
Amaury Telemaco 5-7, 5.46
Kevin Foster 7-6, 6.21

 

Don't forget about Steve Trachsel - he was on that team as well.

 

And for some reason, I always liked Jim Bullinger. Maybe it was cause he was so goofy looking. And was '96 the year that Castillo was an out away from a no hitter in that night game at Wrigley?

 

I can't believe that Leo Gomez was our starting 3B that year. :shock:

 

His .238 BA was pretty bad but the .344 OBP would make Billy Beane proud. Also, his .972 FA was the best in the league among third basemen.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Or how 'bout this vintage rotation from 1962......

 

Bob Buhl        12-13   3.69
Dick Ellsworth   9-20   5.09
Don Cardwell     7-16   4.92
Cal Koonce      10-10   3.97
Glen Hobbie      5-14   5.22

 

Ah ...... the memories !! :puker:

[cubbieinexile]

All the Cubs have really done is put themselves right back where they started when the Tribune bought them. Okay a couple of years after they bought them.

 

 

Mid 80's talent on the ballclub with talent percolating in the minors. Injuries and stupid decisions waste it all to the point where by the mid 90's they are at rock bottom in terms of talent on the team and talent in the farm club. They rebuild 5 or 6 years later they are back to mid 80's form and now we begin are descent into the 90's. Injuries, stupid signings, minor league talent wasted or undeveloped.

[CubinNY]

All the Cubs have really done is put themselves right back where they started when the Tribune bought them. Okay a couple of years after they bought them.

 

 

Mid 80's talent on the ballclub with talent percolating in the minors. Injuries and stupid decisions waste it all to the point where by the mid 90's they are at rock bottom in terms of talent on the team and talent in the farm club. They rebuild 5 or 6 years later they are back to mid 80's form and now we begin are descent into the 90's. Injuries, stupid signings, minor league talent wasted or undeveloped.

 

Prognosis: Not good.

[Derwood]

Terry Adams just signed a minor league deal with Philly or Toronto or somewhere.....

[fearthecubs]

Jamie Navarro 15-12, 3.92
Frank Castillo 7-16, 5.28
Jim Bullinger 6-10, 6.54
Amaury Telemaco 5-7, 5.46
Kevin Foster 7-6, 6.21

 

Don't forget about Steve Trachsel - he was on that team as well.

 

And for some reason, I always liked Jim Bullinger. Maybe it was cause he was so goofy looking. And was '96 the year that Castillo was an out away from a no hitter in that night game at Wrigley?

 

I forget about Trachsel all the time. Hell I forgot what was going on between each pitch he threw. He made Clement look like the Flash.

[Illini Iceman]

Jamie Navarro 15-12, 3.92
Frank Castillo 7-16, 5.28
Jim Bullinger 6-10, 6.54
Amaury Telemaco 5-7, 5.46
Kevin Foster 7-6, 6.21

 

Don't forget about Steve Trachsel - he was on that team as well.

 

And for some reason, I always liked Jim Bullinger. Maybe it was cause he was so goofy looking. And was '96 the year that Castillo was an out away from a no hitter in that night game at Wrigley?

 

I forget about Trachsel all the time. Hell I forgot what was going on between each pitch he threw. He made Clement look like the Flash.

 

I assume a lot of other people here were at the one game playoff in '98 that Traschel started against the Giants. He had a no hitter going pretty late in the game but he was taking so much time that it really did not seem like he was cruising along.

They cut off beer sales in the bottom of 7th inning of night games so I went to make a final beer run around the bottom of the sixth to be safe but was told that they were already done because of the time curfew had passed. Traschel and his slow pace caused the stadium to go at least the last three innings with no beer!! :evil:

[fearthecubs]

Jamie Navarro 15-12, 3.92
Frank Castillo 7-16, 5.28
Jim Bullinger 6-10, 6.54
Amaury Telemaco 5-7, 5.46
Kevin Foster 7-6, 6.21

 

Don't forget about Steve Trachsel - he was on that team as well.

 

And for some reason, I always liked Jim Bullinger. Maybe it was cause he was so goofy looking. And was '96 the year that Castillo was an out away from a no hitter in that night game at Wrigley?

 

I forget about Trachsel all the time. Hell I forgot what was going on between each pitch he threw. He made Clement look like the Flash.

 

I assume a lot of other people here were at the one game playoff in '98 that Traschel started against the Giants. He had a no hitter going pretty late in the game but he was taking so much time that it really did not seem like he was cruising along.

They cut off beer sales in the bottom of 7th inning of night games so I went to make a final beer run around the bottom of the sixth to be safe but was told that they were already done because of the time curfew had passed. Traschel and his slow pace caused the stadium to go at least the last three innings with no beer!! :evil:

 

Is there any sin greater in the game?

[Careless]

they stopped selling beer half an hour before the maddux 3000 strikeout game started. one of my friends had managed to get some and the 2 behind him in line had their orders in when they got cut off.

It really hurt the rowdiness late in the game (aside from the hawkins appearance)