NL Gold Gloves (D. Lee and Maddux Included!!!)

[E.J.]

Just announced on ESPN News a second ago:

 

P- G. Maddux

C- M. Matheny

1b- D. Lee

2b- L. Castillo

SS- O. Vizquel

3b- M. Lowell

OF- J. Edmunds

OF- Andruw Jones

OF- Bobby Abreu

 

Congrats to Maddux and D. Lee for winning. Once again, someone please explain to me how Abreu is a Gold Glover.

[Burtonbell]

LEE & MADDUX win it for the Cubs

 

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051102&content_id=1263572&vkey=news_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc

 

No info yet on who else one it...

[Schwarber Fan]

WTG MADDOG AND DLEE!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I thought Yadier Molina would get the catcher award though

[E.J.]

Yeah, I thought Molina might get it as well, especially with all the putouts he had.

[Burtonbell]

Beat me by a minute.

 

Good to see Maddux get his just props. I think having Macias play in the IF atuomatically gets DLee the GG.

[Burtonbell]

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051102&content_id=1263718&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

[Schwarber Fan]

you were beat to it:

 

viewtopic.php?t=26305

[HoopsCubs]

 

2b- L. Castillo

 

Let's just get this guy!

[Andy]

Congratulations to Maddux and Lee! I wouldn't have given it to either of them but I'm not going to argue with some more honors for the Cubs. :P

[YearofDaCubs]

Good stuff!

[UMFan83]

Mike Lowell? His offensive stats weren't good enough to get the award.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

Abreu? buhahahaha, what a joke.

 

congrats DLee and Maddux. :D

[ToupeeOnFire]

I am just glad Neifi didn't win one, even if he was probably more deserving than Omar Vizquel. Myself, I would have given it to Jack Wilson.

[da bears]

Alright way to go Lee and Maddux! DLEE AND MADDOG FOR THREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

[UMFan83]

I am just glad Neifi didn't win one, even if he was probably more deserving than Omar Vizquel. Myself, I would have given it to Jack Wilson.

 

"Dude, this man is a gold glove winner. He must be doing sometihng right. We need to start him every game"

[Andy]

I am just glad Neifi didn't win one, even if he was probably more deserving than Omar Vizquel. Myself, I would have given it to Jack Wilson.

Vizquel got it by name as Jack Wilson was more deserving. Wilson had Vizquel by high margins in Range Factor and Zone Rating. He also was involved in a whopping FORTY-FIVE more double plays than Vizquel.

 

My ballot at SS would have been:

 

1. Jack

2. Neifi

3. Vizquel

[don_kessinger_was_good]

I wish Neifi would have won the GG, encouraging some team to think he really SHOULD be a starter and take him off our hands. We should demand a RECOUNT!

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Schneider got jobbed.

[ToupeeOnFire]

Speaking of getting a gold glove by virtue of name...

 

http://www.homeruncards.com/imagesrc/madduxdon.jpg

[Balsa]

Speaking of getting a gold glove by virtue of name...

 

Oh come on. Who was a better fielding pitcher?

[treebird]

Schneider got jobbed.

 

no worries, he'll start winning these when he's 38 or so.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Schneider got jobbed.

 

no worries, he'll start winning these when he's 38 or so.

 

He needs to hire someone to start talking up his leadership abilities, then start hitting for a low 600s OPS, that should do the trick.

[ToupeeOnFire]

Speaking of getting a gold glove by virtue of name...

 

Oh come on. Who was a better fielding pitcher?

 

I don't know, but Maddux didn't strike me as wondrous out there. Maybe my expectations for Maddux are extraordinarily high, but he didn't seem to be much better than any of our other pitchers. On occasion he'd make an exceptional play, other times he'd commit a flub. In fielding prowess, he didn't seem to be any better than Carlos Zambrano (if anything, I'd rate Carlos higher).

 

Whether Maddux did or did not deserve the gold glove, there is little doubt he is gobbling them up on name recoginition. I don't think the people that vote for this stuff know any better than I do as to who was the league's best fielding pitcher.

[Andy]

Speaking of getting a gold glove by virtue of name...

 

Oh come on. Who was a better fielding pitcher?

 

I don't know, but Maddux didn't strike me as wondrous out there. Maybe my expectations for Maddux are extraordinarily high, but he didn't seem to be much better than any of our other pitchers. On occasion he'd make an exceptional play, other times he'd commit a flub. In fielding prowess, he didn't seem to be any better than Carlos Zambrano (if anything, I'd rate Carlos higher).

 

Whether Maddux did or did not deserve the gold glove, there is little doubt he is gobbling them up on name recoginition. I don't think the people that vote for this stuff know any better than I do as to who was the league's best fielding pitcher.

I would've voted John Smoltz. He had good numbers at most every stat and had no errors compared to Maddux's 3.

[UMFan83]

Yeah I'm not sure if Maddux deserved it this year. I seem to recall several questionable plays that he made this year that he certainly wouldn't have made in the past. He was and maybe still is a great fielder, but not this year.

 

Oh and I see breaking the wrong way on fly balls and then compensating by taking needless dives is still a category for determining Gold Glove winners