10/2 Houston (Oswalt) vs. Cubs (Maddux), 1:05 CT, WGN/ESPN

[J.R.]

I'll see you guys in the Transactions thread during the winter meetings. Have a nice Thanksgiving.

 

Eat big. I know I will.

[Flames24Rulz]

Who the hell hangs a "back-to-back Wild Card Champs" banner?

 

As pathetic as we are, I can't see the organization making that big a deal of it if were we in the same spot.

 

the organization makes a huge deal out of the fact that we can draw 3 million people to the park each year. If we ever happened to have back to back WC winning seasons, I'd be willing to bet that the organization would make a huge deal of making the playoffs 2 years in a row.

[erik316wttn]

No more Cubs until April.

 

Now what am I gonna complain about?

[E.J.]

No more Cubs until April.

 

Now what am I gonna complain about?

 

The Bears?

[J.R.]

Who the hell hangs a "back-to-back Wild Card Champs" banner?

 

As pathetic as we are, I can't see the organization making that big a deal of it if were we in the same spot.

 

the organization makes a huge deal out of the fact that we can draw 3 million people to the park each year. If we ever happened to have back to back WC winning seasons, I'd be willing to bet that the organization would make a huge deal of making the playoffs 2 years in a row.

 

Sure, but they wouldn't hang a banner the size of some NCAA scoreboards trumpeting the fact that the Cubs were the best second place team two years in a row. Most teams don't even count wild card berths in their "champs" tally.

 

The Cubs made a big deal about 3 million last year. I don't recall a peep this year.

[Flames24Rulz]

Who the hell hangs a "back-to-back Wild Card Champs" banner?

 

As pathetic as we are, I can't see the organization making that big a deal of it if were we in the same spot.

 

the organization makes a huge deal out of the fact that we can draw 3 million people to the park each year. If we ever happened to have back to back WC winning seasons, I'd be willing to bet that the organization would make a huge deal of making the playoffs 2 years in a row.

 

Sure, but they wouldn't hang a banner the size of some NCAA scoreboards trumpeting the fact that the Cubs were the best second place team two years in a row. Most teams don't even count wild card berths in their "champs" tally.

 

The Cubs made a big deal about 3 million last year. I don't recall a peep this year.

 

i didn't see the banner, so i wouldnt know..i turned the game off right after Macias lined out. I agree with you, i would hope we wouldn't do that if we did win the WC 2 years in a row.

[ToupeeOnFire]

No more Cubs until April.

 

Now what am I gonna complain about?

 

Hendry's offseason moves?

 

Future headline in winter:

Cubs ink Macias for 2 more years

Baker lauds leadership and versatility

[YearofDaCubs]

No more Cubs until April.

 

Now what am I gonna complain about?

 

Hendry's offseason moves?

 

Future headline in winter:

Cubs ink Macias for 2 more years

Baker lauds leadership and versatility

That's the more liekly scenario as far as I'm concerned.

[erik316wttn]

No more Cubs until April.

 

Now what am I gonna complain about?

 

The Bears?

 

Actually, I'm a Packer fan.

 

Spare me your pity.

[LoneStarCubFan]

The fact that Neifi Perez played in 154 games this year and Jose Freakin' Macias played in 112 tells you everything you need to know about the Cubs.

 

Only Burnitz and Lee played in more than Perez and Macias played in more than Walker did.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Who the hell hangs a "back-to-back Wild Card Champs" banner?

 

As pathetic as we are, I can't see the organization making that big a deal of it if were we in the same spot.

 

Sure they would. This is the team that was doing all it could to get three .500+ seasons in a row, you know they would acknowledge making the playoffs two straight seasons - wildcard or not - in a flashy manner.

[J.R.]

Who the hell hangs a "back-to-back Wild Card Champs" banner?

 

As pathetic as we are, I can't see the organization making that big a deal of it if were we in the same spot.

 

Sure they would. This is the team that was doing all it could to get three .500+ seasons in a row, you know they would acknowledge making the playoffs two straight seasons - wildcard or not - in a flashy manner.

 

Did you see the banner? "Back to Back Wild Card Champs" - it was too ridiculous to believe. Too ridiculous for the Cubs even.

 

I don't doubt that the organization would trumpet the achievement of two straight playoff berths - hell, it's a big deal for anyone outside of Atlanta, Boston and New York - but the Cubs had sense enough not to fly a "1998 Wild Card Champions" flag in 1999, and I think they'd have sense enough not to father the kind of silly display seen today in Houston.

 

The "Wild Card Champion" title's legitimacy is dubious at best. The proper term is "Wild Card Winner," but that just doesn't look good on shirts and whatnot.

[rocket]

goodbye cobs

[treebird]

good riddance

 

dont come back next year cubs

[EricG]

do the Cubs even have any championship banners in Wrigley? 1907-1908 back to back champs?

[J.R.]

do the Cubs even have any championship banners in Wrigley? 1907-1908 back to back champs?

 

There is a rooftop flag for each post-1904 postseason berth. They don't indicate championships or levels of advancement. The "1908' flag looks just like the "1998" flag.

 

The original design for the new bleachers included flagpoles that presumably would have held flags for all the pennants and division titles since 1876, but the latest changes wiped them out.

[Brian]

that's what I wonder about, if the cubs do ever win a World Series what kind of banner or whatever will they get. Just stick another 20XX flag up on the roof top??

[erik316wttn]

do the Cubs even have any championship banners in Wrigley? 1907-1908 back to back champs?

 

There is a rooftop flag for each post-1904 postseason berth. They don't indicate championships or levels of advancement. The "1908' flag looks just like the "1998" flag.

 

The original design for the new bleachers included flagpoles that presumably would have held flags for all the pennants and division titles since 1876, but the latest changes wiped them out.

 

That would have been a laugher.

 

"18xx" flying high atop the stadium. Would have been good for a laugh for opposing teams watching a pathetic franchise trying to celebrate anything they can. Grasping at straws, really.

[J.R.]

that's what I wonder about, if the cubs do ever win a World Series what kind of banner or whatever will they get. Just stick another 20XX flag up on the roof top??

 

In 1990, a "1989 NL Eastern Division Champions" flag flew with Banks' number on the left field foul pole throughout the season. In 2004, the NL Central flag flew in the same spot on Opening Day but wasn't seen again.

 

If the pattern held, we'd see a proper "pennant" on the foul pole for a season (or a day) and then they'd add the simple roof banner.

 

do the Cubs even have any championship banners in Wrigley? 1907-1908 back to back champs?

 

There is a rooftop flag for each post-1904 postseason berth. They don't indicate championships or levels of advancement. The "1908' flag looks just like the "1998" flag.

 

The original design for the new bleachers included flagpoles that presumably would have held flags for all the pennants and division titles since 1876, but the latest changes wiped them out.

 

That would have been a laugher.

 

"18xx" flying high atop the stadium. Would have been good for a laugh for opposing teams watching a pathetic franchise trying to celebrate anything they can. Grasping at straws, really.

 

I tend to agree, but at what point is something too old to recognize?

[erik316wttn]

that's what I wonder about, if the cubs do ever win a World Series what kind of banner or whatever will they get. Just stick another 20XX flag up on the roof top??

 

In 1990, a "1989 NL Eastern Division Champions" flag flew with Banks' number on the left field foul pole throughout the season. In 2004, the NL Central flag flew in the same spot on Opening Day but wasn't seen again.

 

If the pattern held, we'd see a proper "pennant" on the foul pole for a season (or a day) and then they'd add the simple roof banner.

 

do the Cubs even have any championship banners in Wrigley? 1907-1908 back to back champs?

 

There is a rooftop flag for each post-1904 postseason berth. They don't indicate championships or levels of advancement. The "1908' flag looks just like the "1998" flag.

 

The original design for the new bleachers included flagpoles that presumably would have held flags for all the pennants and division titles since 1876, but the latest changes wiped them out.

 

That would have been a laugher.

 

"18xx" flying high atop the stadium. Would have been good for a laugh for opposing teams watching a pathetic franchise trying to celebrate anything they can. Grasping at straws, really.

 

I tend to agree, but at what point is something too old to recognize?

 

When everyone who was alive then is dead now.

[J.R.]

Then we'll be fresh out of pennants in another 50 years or so. I love this team!