8/15 Cubs (Rusch) @ Astros (Rodriguez) 7:05 CSNC

[CubfaninCA]

I want JVB, but then someone's going to have to be released from the 40-man but I doubt they'd do it.

 

Release Wellemeyer. No loss @ all.

 

Majorly disagree.

 

raisin, what do you see in Welle?

 

He has the pitches to be a bottom of the order starter - he posted an ERA of 3 at AAA in 11 starts this year. He could also be a good set-up man. The Cubs need to give him a proper role and not dust him off once every week in blow outs.

 

 

I dont mean to pick a bone with you, but I dont see it. lower to mid 90's fastball, ok slider, changup...and limited success at AAA.

 

it seems like every time he gets called up his head implodes and he cant find the strikezone. do you think he needs to start?

 

He needs regular playing time to succeed. He doesn't get it in the big leagues (except for about two weeks in May) and that's why I think he struggles more with his control in the big leagues. He gets proper playing time in the minors and does well.

 

If only Choi could play ever day......

 

And the song plays on.... It's Dusty fault. doo dooo. Dusty's fault. dooo dooo. It rained today and was Dusty's fault. doo doooo

:D

 

I know you're kidding but I have to say it anyway. We have to stop blaming baker for everything. These guys are making Major league money and they have to earn their pay. Baker isn't walking 5 batters in an inning or making errors. These guys have to play well

 

On a bright note, Ohman is a good pitcher who isn't getting much credit for the season he's had thus far. He can have control problems too but more often than not, he gets his man.

 

Agree. I don't like Baker, but he isn't as awful as some say. The nitpickign of Baker in re: to playing youngsters gets carried away. Some of these guys just are not that good.

[CubsHawks25]

SWING AT THOSE LOW-&-OUTSIDE BALLS, BARRETT!!!

 

Just get this crap over with, FFS!!

[CaliforniaRaisin]

I want JVB, but then someone's going to have to be released from the 40-man but I doubt they'd do it.

 

Release Wellemeyer. No loss @ all.

 

Majorly disagree.

 

raisin, what do you see in Welle?

 

He has the pitches to be a bottom of the order starter - he posted an ERA of 3 at AAA in 11 starts this year. He could also be a good set-up man. The Cubs need to give him a proper role and not dust him off once every week in blow outs.

 

 

I dont mean to pick a bone with you, but I dont see it. lower to mid 90's fastball, ok slider, changup...and limited success at AAA.

 

it seems like every time he gets called up his head implodes and he cant find the strikezone. do you think he needs to start?

 

He needs regular playing time to succeed. He doesn't get it in the big leagues (except for about two weeks in May) and that's why I think he struggles more with his control in the big leagues. He gets proper playing time in the minors and does well.

 

If only Choi could play ever day......

 

And the song plays on.... It's Dusty fault. doo dooo. Dusty's fault. dooo dooo. It rained today and was Dusty's fault. doo doooo

:D

 

it'd be one thing if your boy glendon had pitched well tonight and you were over here taunting people about their preference for youngsters. it's just mind-boggling that you're still doing it after rusch got rocked.

 

It's one poor game. The guy hasn't started for a few months. His ERA was 3.32 as a starter. He was the best option for tonight.

 

But Welly doesn't get the same flack for his first relief appearance and big league appearance in months (AND he cleaned up one of Rusch's messes)?

[CubsHawks25]

Burnitz is coming up!!

 

OMFG, I'm sooooooo excited to see this!!!!!!!!

[CubsHawks25]

That's the ONLY way Burnitz has been able to reach the last week or so... error.

[Schwarber Fan]

Burnitz reached base???

[lowest]

That's the ONLY way Burnitz has been able to reach the last week or so... error.

 

well at least it means hes putting it into play... :?

[CubfaninCA]

Bottom of the order starter for Cincy perhaps. This isn't a small market team. They guy's going on 27. Throw the towel in.

 

If he can't make it here, then he's a commodity that can be sent to the teams that can use him. Why do you want Welly cut from the organization, yet clamor for Rueter to be signed?

 

What can the Cubs get for him?? Seriously?

 

Could catch lightning in a bottle w/ Reuter. At least he's had success in the majors, and can't be much worse than Hill, Mitre or Welly.

 

Not by himself, using him as part of a package he's a valuable component. Besides, he's not taking anyone's space that's needed before the end of the season, no need to be wasteful by cutting him. Rueter has been terrible. We're better off seeing what we have in Rusch/Hill/Mitre/Welly/etc. than hoping to get 4 good starts out of a guy who never had good stuff whose age is catching up to him.

 

I'll give Rusch a shot. The other 3 shouldn't be starting in a wildcard chase.

 

Obviously Rusch did fantastic today.

 

And the Cubs aren't in the wildcard chase.

 

Yep, he let 6 men on in a third of an inning. ;)

 

Dont' give up hope man.

[CubsHawks25]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW we're taking pitches and working counts........ makes perfect sense to me. [-X

[Schwarber Fan]

Murton cmon drive in 2

[Wheelimus]

Wait a minute...it's the 9th and Matt Murton is still in the game. What's wrong with this picture??? :lol:

[CubfaninCA]

I want JVB, but then someone's going to have to be released from the 40-man but I doubt they'd do it.

 

Release Wellemeyer. No loss @ all.

 

Majorly disagree.

 

raisin, what do you see in Welle?

 

He has the pitches to be a bottom of the order starter - he posted an ERA of 3 at AAA in 11 starts this year. He could also be a good set-up man. The Cubs need to give him a proper role and not dust him off once every week in blow outs.

 

 

I dont mean to pick a bone with you, but I dont see it. lower to mid 90's fastball, ok slider, changup...and limited success at AAA.

 

it seems like every time he gets called up his head implodes and he cant find the strikezone. do you think he needs to start?

 

He needs regular playing time to succeed. He doesn't get it in the big leagues (except for about two weeks in May) and that's why I think he struggles more with his control in the big leagues. He gets proper playing time in the minors and does well.

 

If only Choi could play ever day......

 

And the song plays on.... It's Dusty fault. doo dooo. Dusty's fault. dooo dooo. It rained today and was Dusty's fault. doo doooo

:D

 

it'd be one thing if your boy glendon had pitched well tonight and you were over here taunting people about their preference for youngsters. it's just mind-boggling that you're still doing it after rusch got rocked.

 

It's one poor game. The guy hasn't started for a few months. His ERA was 3.32 as a starter. He was the best option for tonight.

 

But Welly doesn't get the same flack for his first relief appearance and big league appearance in months (AND he cleaned up one of Rusch's messes)?

 

Welly got 1 frikken out tonight, and had to be pulled before he let 6 more men on. Rusch sukked, whereas there isn't a word in the dictionary to describe how bad Welly was.

[CubsHawks25]

Welp, time to start rooting against the Craptardinals in the playoffs again... might as well start now, hopefully all the mojo worked up will oust them in the LDS.

[Schwarber Fan]

game - good night

 

time for nightmares

[CaliforniaRaisin]

I want JVB, but then someone's going to have to be released from the 40-man but I doubt they'd do it.

 

Release Wellemeyer. No loss @ all.

 

Majorly disagree.

 

raisin, what do you see in Welle?

 

He has the pitches to be a bottom of the order starter - he posted an ERA of 3 at AAA in 11 starts this year. He could also be a good set-up man. The Cubs need to give him a proper role and not dust him off once every week in blow outs.

 

 

I dont mean to pick a bone with you, but I dont see it. lower to mid 90's fastball, ok slider, changup...and limited success at AAA.

 

it seems like every time he gets called up his head implodes and he cant find the strikezone. do you think he needs to start?

 

He needs regular playing time to succeed. He doesn't get it in the big leagues (except for about two weeks in May) and that's why I think he struggles more with his control in the big leagues. He gets proper playing time in the minors and does well.

 

If only Choi could play ever day......

 

And the song plays on.... It's Dusty fault. doo dooo. Dusty's fault. dooo dooo. It rained today and was Dusty's fault. doo doooo

:D

 

it'd be one thing if your boy glendon had pitched well tonight and you were over here taunting people about their preference for youngsters. it's just mind-boggling that you're still doing it after rusch got rocked.

 

It's one poor game. The guy hasn't started for a few months. His ERA was 3.32 as a starter. He was the best option for tonight.

 

But Welly doesn't get the same flack for his first relief appearance and big league appearance in months (AND he cleaned up one of Rusch's messes)?

 

Welly got 1 frikken out tonight, and had to be pulled before he let 6 more men on. Rusch sukked, whereas there isn't a word in the dictionary to describe how bad Welly was.

 

And you're going to judge a player by one bad outing, to the point of wanting to cut him? Especially when he could be used in a trade?

[Blueheart05]

Bottom of the order starter for Cincy perhaps. This isn't a small market team. They guy's going on 27. Throw the towel in.

 

If he can't make it here, then he's a commodity that can be sent to the teams that can use him. Why do you want Welly cut from the organization, yet clamor for Rueter to be signed?

 

What can the Cubs get for him?? Seriously?

 

Could catch lightning in a bottle w/ Reuter. At least he's had success in the majors, and can't be much worse than Hill, Mitre or Welly.

 

Not by himself, using him as part of a package he's a valuable component. Besides, he's not taking anyone's space that's needed before the end of the season, no need to be wasteful by cutting him. Rueter has been terrible. We're better off seeing what we have in Rusch/Hill/Mitre/Welly/etc. than hoping to get 4 good starts out of a guy who never had good stuff whose age is catching up to him.

 

I'll give Rusch a shot. The other 3 shouldn't be starting in a wildcard chase.

 

Obviously Rusch did fantastic today.

 

And the Cubs aren't in the wildcard chase.

 

Yep, he let 6 men on in a third of an inning. ;)

 

Dont' give up hope man.

 

Wellemeyer is just BAD. How many chances is this guy going to get? He's his own worst enemy; walks are worse than screaming line drives... Perhaps he pitches better in AAA because all the really good hitters are in AA. LOL! Seriously, I would love him to do a good job but the Cubs aren't the Rockies. In other words, we don't have time to baby pitchers with control problems. He's not a kid.

Edited August 16, 2005 by Blueheart05

[Blueheart05]

I want JVB, but then someone's going to have to be released from the 40-man but I doubt they'd do it.

 

Release Wellemeyer. No loss @ all.

 

Majorly disagree.

 

raisin, what do you see in Welle?

 

He has the pitches to be a bottom of the order starter - he posted an ERA of 3 at AAA in 11 starts this year. He could also be a good set-up man. The Cubs need to give him a proper role and not dust him off once every week in blow outs.

 

 

I dont mean to pick a bone with you, but I dont see it. lower to mid 90's fastball, ok slider, changup...and limited success at AAA.

 

it seems like every time he gets called up his head implodes and he cant find the strikezone. do you think he needs to start?

 

He needs regular playing time to succeed. He doesn't get it in the big leagues (except for about two weeks in May) and that's why I think he struggles more with his control in the big leagues. He gets proper playing time in the minors and does well.

 

If only Choi could play ever day......

 

And the song plays on.... It's Dusty fault. doo dooo. Dusty's fault. dooo dooo. It rained today and was Dusty's fault. doo doooo

:D

 

it'd be one thing if your boy glendon had pitched well tonight and you were over here taunting people about their preference for youngsters. it's just mind-boggling that you're still doing it after rusch got rocked.

 

It's one poor game. The guy hasn't started for a few months. His ERA was 3.32 as a starter. He was the best option for tonight.

 

But Welly doesn't get the same flack for his first relief appearance and big league appearance in months (AND he cleaned up one of Rusch's messes)?

 

Welly got 1 frikken out tonight, and had to be pulled before he let 6 more men on. Rusch sukked, whereas there isn't a word in the dictionary to describe how bad Welly was.

 

And you're going to judge a player by one bad outing, to the point of wanting to cut him? Especially when he could be used in a trade?

 

One bad outing? In all fairness, the last time we saw Wellemeyer he was being rocked at Us Cellular Field. His contol problems are his downfall.

[CubfaninCA]

I want JVB, but then someone's going to have to be released from the 40-man but I doubt they'd do it.

 

Release Wellemeyer. No loss @ all.

 

Majorly disagree.

 

raisin, what do you see in Welle?

 

He has the pitches to be a bottom of the order starter - he posted an ERA of 3 at AAA in 11 starts this year. He could also be a good set-up man. The Cubs need to give him a proper role and not dust him off once every week in blow outs.

 

 

I dont mean to pick a bone with you, but I dont see it. lower to mid 90's fastball, ok slider, changup...and limited success at AAA.

 

it seems like every time he gets called up his head implodes and he cant find the strikezone. do you think he needs to start?

 

He needs regular playing time to succeed. He doesn't get it in the big leagues (except for about two weeks in May) and that's why I think he struggles more with his control in the big leagues. He gets proper playing time in the minors and does well.

 

If only Choi could play ever day......

 

And the song plays on.... It's Dusty fault. doo dooo. Dusty's fault. dooo dooo. It rained today and was Dusty's fault. doo doooo

:D

 

it'd be one thing if your boy glendon had pitched well tonight and you were over here taunting people about their preference for youngsters. it's just mind-boggling that you're still doing it after rusch got rocked.

 

It's one poor game. The guy hasn't started for a few months. His ERA was 3.32 as a starter. He was the best option for tonight.

 

But Welly doesn't get the same flack for his first relief appearance and big league appearance in months (AND he cleaned up one of Rusch's messes)?

 

Welly got 1 frikken out tonight, and had to be pulled before he let 6 more men on. Rusch sukked, whereas there isn't a word in the dictionary to describe how bad Welly was.

 

And you're going to judge a player by one bad outing, to the point of wanting to cut him? Especially when he could be used in a trade?

 

No. I'm judging him over 54 major league appearances and his career 6.43 ERA. I don't want to see this guy get another appearance, and definitely not another 54. If they can get anything for him, that would be great. Maybe they can trade him for DuBois. :o

[abuck1220]

No. I'm judging him over 54 major league appearances and his career 6.43 ERA. I don't want to see this guy get another appearance, and definitely not another 54. If they can get anything for him, that would be great. Maybe they can trade him for DuBois. :o

 

lol....take a gander at rusch's career numbers some time.

[jaydee]

There really is no point in NOT starting Murton for the rest of the season and seeing if he has what it takes to be a starting corner OF next year right now

[gflore34]

With rare exception the Cubs starting pitching has been a joke, it would have to be to give up 6+ runs to one of the weakest lineups in the NL. Nine walks would make any lineup more potent, even one as weak as the Astros. Yet another pathetic display by these worthless 2005 Cubs.