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Our earned runs by the Starters Since the 8 game debacle.

 

Going

 

7

7 and 2/3

8

8

6 (could have easily been 8 )

ETA:

8

8

 

 

Innings a piece.

 

Now I know this was against the fish and bucs, and the Cubs still suck. But this is encouraging. I think the wild-card is MadDog. If we have second half of 2004 maddog, we should be able to make a real run, legimately having a shot to win 4/5 games.

 

Am I drinking too much blue cub cool-aid?

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this is encouraging. I think the wild-card is MadDog. If we have second half of 2004 maddog, we should be able to make a real run, legimately having a shot to win 4/5 games.

 

Am I drinking too much blue cub cool-aid?

 

I don't think so. You acknowledge that they need to be getting stuff they haven't gotten yet, and that's exactly true. The window is still open, but they only way they get in is with fantastic starting pitching throughout the rotation.

 

 

Although they won't win 80% of their remaining games.

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this is encouraging. I think the wild-card is MadDog. If we have second half of 2004 maddog, we should be able to make a real run, legimately having a shot to win 4/5 games.

 

Am I drinking too much blue cub cool-aid?

 

I don't think so. You acknowledge that they need to be getting stuff they haven't gotten yet, and that's exactly true. The window is still open, but they only way they get in is with fantastic starting pitching throughout the rotation.

 

 

Although they won't win 80% of their remaining games.

 

That's why I said "have a shot to" :wink:

 

Basically what I meant was if Maddux returns to the old, are starting pitchers could have us a chance to win in 4 out of every 5 ballgames, I know we won't, but if we win 6/10 I say we have a good shot of the WC.

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I know we won't, but if we win 6/10 I say we have a good shot of the WC.

 

60% gives them 89 wins, which I think might come up short of the playoffs.

 

60% for the most part, plus one 10 game winning streak? Deal?

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I know we won't, but if we win 6/10 I say we have a good shot of the WC.

 

60% gives them 89 wins, which I think might come up short of the playoffs.

 

60% for the most part, plus one 10 game winning streak? Deal?

 

:thumright:

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The starters have been solid, but what about when this club plays a one or two run game ? They can continue to be great for 6 or 7 innings, but the Cubs have to find a way to bridge the gap to Dempster. If they do that, this club could only need 4 or 5 runs at most per night to win games on a regular basis (i.e. 2nd half of '03).

 

They've had flashes of excellence in the 7th and 8th from Novoa, Wuertz, Wellemeyer, etc, but no one has take the job and run with it. At this point in the season, I don't think it's going to happen internally.

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The starters have been solid, but what about when this club plays a one or two run game ? They can continue to be great for 6 or 7 innings, but the Cubs have to find a way to bridge the gap to Dempster. If they do that, this club could only need 4 or 5 runs at most per night to win games on a regular basis (i.e. 2nd half of '03).

 

They've had flashes of excellence in the 7th and 8th from Novoa, Wuertz, Wellemeyer, etc, but no one has take the job and run with it. At this point in the season, I don't think it's going to happen internally.

 

Williamson should give the pen a boost when he returns.

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Yes you are correct MembersOnlyJacket. We need a set-up man/good bullpen help more than we need a SS or LF power-bat combined.

 

Git er done Hendry. That's an order.

 

Rusch and a Prospect should be able to land us some veteran solid bullpen help.

 

I wish we still had Farnsworth.

 

*ducks*

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Yes you are correct MembersOnlyJacket. We need a set-up man/good bullpen help more than we need a SS or LF power-bat combined.

 

Git er done Hendry. That's an order.

 

Rusch and a Prospect should be able to land us some veteran solid bullpen help.

 

I wish we still had Farnsworth.

 

*ducks*

 

Hey. We should have kept Farnsworth. He went good year/bad year, and he was due for a good year this year.

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Good starting pitching breeds competitiveness! At least among the Top 4 starters. I don't think any of them wants to be the weak link. I think each one goes out and tries to best the last performance. Especially among the three power pitchers. And with those 4 pitchers healthy, I think a win any night is possible, if not probably, regardless of the pitching matchup (assuming they stay healthy).
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The starters have been solid, but what about when this club plays a one or two run game ? They can continue to be great for 6 or 7 innings, but the Cubs have to find a way to bridge the gap to Dempster. If they do that, this club could only need 4 or 5 runs at most per night to win games on a regular basis (i.e. 2nd half of '03).

 

They've had flashes of excellence in the 7th and 8th from Novoa, Wuertz, Wellemeyer, etc, but no one has take the job and run with it. At this point in the season, I don't think it's going to happen internally.

 

Williamson should give the pen a boost when he returns.

 

Yeah, if he is the Williamson of old. I have no idea what to expect from him. If he is like he was during his old Reds days, that will be a major plus for the pen.

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Good starting pitching breeds competitiveness! At least among the Top 4 starters. I don't think any of them wants to be the weak link. I think each one goes out and tries to best the last performance. Especially among the three power pitchers. And with those 4 pitchers healthy, I think a win any night is possible, if not probably, regardless of the pitching matchup (assuming they stay healthy).

 

I agree. Everytime Prior goes out before Wood, He one-ups him by the slimmest of margins. I wonder if they have friendly sidebets going on since they are so close.

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I'm not sure if it was mentioned on here or not, but during the broadcast, the Cubs starting pitching during the last 4 games aganist Pittsburgh, has a 1.18 ERA.

 

That's pretty impressive.

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I'm not sure if it was mentioned on here or not, but during the broadcast, the Cubs starting pitching during the last 4 games aganist Pittsburgh, has a 1.18 ERA.

 

That's pretty impressive.

 

Cubs.com says that they have a 1.37 ERA over the 6-1 streak.

 

8 runs in 52+ innings.

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I'm not sure if it was mentioned on here or not, but during the broadcast, the Cubs starting pitching during the last 4 games aganist Pittsburgh, has a 1.18 ERA.

 

That's pretty impressive.

 

Cubs.com says that they have a 1.37 ERA over the 6-1 streak.

 

8 runs in 52+ innings.

 

Hmm, I guess the broadcasters was a little bit off.

 

Still, that's not too bad.

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I'm not sure if it was mentioned on here or not, but during the broadcast, the Cubs starting pitching during the last 4 games aganist Pittsburgh, has a 1.18 ERA.

 

That's pretty impressive.

 

Is that right?

 

Prior 8 IP 0 ER

Wood 6 IP 1 ER

Maddux 8 IP 2 ER

Zambrano 8 IP 0 ER

 

Total 30 Innings 3 ER, for a 0.90 ERA. :shock:

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I'm not sure if it was mentioned on here or not, but during the broadcast, the Cubs starting pitching during the last 4 games aganist Pittsburgh, has a 1.18 ERA.

 

That's pretty impressive.

 

Cubs.com says that they have a 1.37 ERA over the 6-1 streak.

 

8 runs in 52+ innings.

 

Hmm, I guess the broadcasters was a little bit off.

 

Still, that's not too bad.

 

At some point during today's game, when they made that calculation..... the CUBS' ERA for the 4 game series with Pittsburgh may very well have been 1.18. At the completion of the 4th game, however, it was down to 1.00 for the 4 game series.

 

07/14 - 07/17        IP    H    R   ER   BB    K   HR  BB/9   K/9  HR/9  WHIP   ERA
CUBS               36.0   19    7    4   10   26    2  2.50  6.50  0.50  0.81  1.00

 

For the 6 games that include this Pittsburgh series, and the last 2 games of the Marlins series before the ASG..... the CUBS' were 5-1, and their pitching line is.......

 

07/09 - 07/17        IP    H    R   ER   BB    K   HR  BB/9   K/9  HR/9  WHIP   ERA
CUBS               54.0   31   11    8   11   35    4  1.83  5.83  0.67  0.78  1.33

 

If you include the first game of the Marlins series, then we're 6-1 for those seven games, and the pitching line is......

 

07/08 - 07/17        IP    H    R   ER   BB    K   HR  BB/9   K/9  HR/9  WHIP   ERA
CUBS               63.0   39   17   14   20   44    6  2.86  6.29  0.86  0.94  2.00

 

For the season, we are now down to 4.23 as this line shows.....

 

04/04 - 07/17        IP    H    R   ER   BB    K   HR  BB/9   K/9  HR/9  WHIP   ERA
CUBS              808.3  753  401  380  326  700  107  3.63  7.79  1.19  1.33  4.23

Posted
I'm not sure if it was mentioned on here or not, but during the broadcast, the Cubs starting pitching during the last 4 games aganist Pittsburgh, has a 1.18 ERA.

 

That's pretty impressive.

 

Is that right?

 

Prior 8 IP 0 ER

Wood 6 IP 1 ER

Maddux 8 IP 2 ER

Zambrano 8 IP 0 ER

 

Total 30 Innings 3 ER, for a 0.90 ERA. :shock:

 

.... and if you add Maddux's start a week ago today in Florida, you come up with 38 innings, 3 ER for a 0.71 starters' ERA over 5 games.

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maybe pittsburgh just really sucks :cry:

 

Maybe so. The Red will posess more challenges for our starting pitching.

 

But the bottom line though is, they're doing pretty much exactly what they should have done in the first half of the season.

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maybe pittsburgh just really sucks :cry:

 

Maybe so. The Red will posess more challenges for our starting pitching.

 

But the bottom line though is, they're doing pretty much exactly what they should have done in the first half of the season.

 

Yes the ERA's will be higher against the Reds, but we should be able to score at will against their JV pitching staff.

 

Which is what worries me.

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