add a former Cub

[Beer Kaese]

 

I want a pretty good shortstop so I'm going with mid to late 50's Ernie Banks.

 

I think the reason nobody has included Ernie is because one of the criteria was that you couldn't name HOFers.

 

Ah, that's right. Well my second choice, late 60's to early 70's Billy Williams doesn't work either.

 

How about Randy Huntley behind the plate? The dude was injury prone but when healthy, one of the best defensive catchers in the game and not too shabby with the stick.

 

Walton and Dernier have no body of work to provide any assurances so I don't go there. Sosa is a future HOFer. Palmerio doesn't qualify (imo) and if a future HOFer.

 

I gotta go with Randy Huntley and bench Barrett.

 

I can live with Hairston, Walker, Lee, Ramirez, Burnitz, Murton, Huntley, Cedeno. With Moreland, Hollandsworth, Perez and Barrett on my bench and Smith or Sutter in the setup role.

[CoolHandLuke]

You would really have Dempster close over Sutter or Smith? :shock:

 

My starter pick is '84 Sarge to leadoff with that 400+ obp

[Beer Kaese]

You would really have Dempster close over Sutter or Smith? :shock:

 

My starter pick is '84 Sarge to leadoff with that 400+ obp

 

Smith is likely headed to the hall so he really isn't an option. If the voting trend continues, Sutter might even make it. In that case, I'll try Phil Regan.

 

Yes, I leave Dempster in the role he has filled successfully.

[JC]

Bobby Dernier

Mitch Williams

And how has noone said GA Hill?

 

They are still watching his last home run.

 

I was struggling with the bench guy between Dwight Smith and GlenAllen Hill. I went with Smith because I choice one specific season. He was better than Walton in '89.

[Fred Hornkohl]

This isn't exactly following the rules as set forth, but consider this premise... Just how good a team could you field from this roster ??

 

07/12           team   AB   R   H  2B  3B  HR  TB  RBI BB   K  SB     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS
M. Alou         S.F.  256  43  81  11   0  12 128  41  40  25   2  0.316  0.409  0.500  0.909
K. Lofton       Phil  175  29  60   5   3   1  74  15  18  24  10  0.343  0.407  0.423  0.830
L. Gonzalez     Ariz  325  53  92  19   0  12 147  51  45  52   2  0.283  0.376  0.452  0.828
R. White        Detr  287  37  88  16   3   9 137  42  11  37   1  0.307  0.334  0.477  0.812
R. Palmeiro     Balt  283  38  76  10   0  15 131  50  31  31   2  0.269  0.337  0.463  0.800
B. Mueller      Bost  256  38  73  15   2   4 104  35  39  41   0  0.285  0.389  0.406  0.796
M. Stairs       K.C.  214  32  54  10   1   8  90  27  37  39   1  0.252  0.369  0.421  0.789
H. Choi         L.A.  216  26  51   7   1  13  99  32  22  51   1  0.236  0.318  0.458  0.777
D. Jackson      S.D.  161  28  47   6   0   4  65  15  16  22  11  0.292  0.365  0.404  0.768
M. Tucker       S.F.  161  22  43  13   0   3  65  25  22  31   3  0.267  0.355  0.404  0.759
D. Miller       Milw  204  26  54  14   0   4  80  20  19  45   0  0.265  0.336  0.392  0.728
L. Harris       Flor   37   1  11   2   0   0  13   2   4   6   0  0.297  0.366  0.351  0.717
E. Hinske       Toro  276  51  66  19   1   7 108  38  31  79   6  0.239  0.321  0.391  0.712
J. Hernandez    Clev  131  17  34   5   0   5  54  21   7  34   1  0.260  0.298  0.412  0.710
M. Grudzielanek St.L  313  39  87  16   2   4 119  29  16  40   6  0.278  0.324  0.380  0.705
A. Gonzalez     Tamp  149  20  39   6   0   4  57  17  13  36   2  0.262  0.321  0.383  0.704
G. Matthews     Tex   188  25  47   8   1   7  78  21  10  35   2  0.250  0.286  0.415  0.701
T. Pratt        Phil   89   9  21   2   0   4  35  17   9  25   0  0.236  0.306  0.393  0.699
B. Hill         Pitt   83  12  23   5   0   0  28  10   9  15   0  0.277  0.358  0.337  0.695
M. Bellhorn     Bost  272  39  60  20   0   6  98  27  47 102   3  0.221  0.332  0.360  0.693
S. Sosa         Balt  253  28  57  11   1   9  97  27  28  50   1  0.225  0.305  0.383  0.689
E. Young        S.D.   28   7   6   4   0   0  10   4   4   1   1  0.214  0.313  0.357  0.670
P. Bako         L.A.   40   1  10   2   0   0  12   4   7  12   0  0.250  0.362  0.300  0.662
B. Santiago     Pitt   23   1   6   1   1   0   9   0   0   3   0  0.261  0.261  0.391  0.652
M. Cairo        NYM   120  13  31   6   0   1  40   8   8  11   8  0.258  0.295  0.333  0.629
R. Sanchez      NYY    67   7  12   1   0   0  13   2   2   3   0  0.279  0.326  0.302  0.628
J. Vizcaino     Hous   96   7  22   6   1   0  30   7   9  17   1  0.229  0.295  0.313  0.608
R. Martinez     Detr   56   4  15   1   0   0  16   5   3   4   0  0.268  0.300  0.286  0.586
T. Womack       NYY   259  32  63   4   1   0  69  12  11  41  20  0.243  0.276  0.266  0.542
A. Melhuse      Oakl   48   2   7   2   0   0   9   6   1  11   0  0.146  0.163  0.188  0.351
R. Gload        CWS    13   0   2   0   0   0   2   1   0   2   0  0.154  0.154  0.154  0.308

 

 

 

07/12           team     G  GS   W   L   S   H    IP   H  ER  HR  BB  SO   ERA
F. Heredia      NYM      3   0   0   0   0   0   2.2   1   0   0   1   2  0.00
A. Alfonseca    Flor     6   0   0   1   0   0   5.2   2   1   0   3   2  1.59
K. Farnsworth   Detr    40   0   1   1   1  15  37.0  27   8   1  15  46  1.95
J. Tavarez      St.L    41   0   1   1   3  20  39.1  36  10   4   8  35  2.29
D. Willis       Flor    18  18  13   4   0   0 128.0 120  34   4  26  95  2.39
K. Mercker      Cinc    46   0   2   1   2  10  37.2  39  11   3  12  24  2.63
A. Sisco        K.C.    37   0   1   2   0   9  43.0  33  13   3  26  45  2.72
T. Gordon       NYY     41   0   2   3   0  15  42.0  28  13   3  19  44  2.79
M. Batista      Toro    37   0   4   2  15   0  39.1  37  13   3  10  25  2.97
J. Garland      CWS     17  17  13   4   0   0 120.0 109  45  11  21  56  3.38
D. Weathers     Cinc    40   0   5   1   3   7  45.1  42  18   3  15  33  3.57
M. Clement      Bost    18  18  10   2   0   0 117.0 113  50   9  35  97  3.85
T. Sturtze      NYY     33   1   2   1   0  10  48.1  44  21   4   8  25  3.91
A. Telemaco     Phil     7   0   0   1   0   0  10.2   5   5   2   4   8  4.22
K. Lohse        Minn    16  15   7   7   0   0  91.2 109  45  10  20  47  4.42
S. Estes        Ariz    17  17   6   7   0   0 104.2 110  53  13  35  56  4.56
J. Moyer        Seat    18  18   8   3   0   0 104.2 120  54  10  34  56  4.64
T. Mulholland   Minn    29   0   0   2   0   3  36.2  36  19   5  11   9  4.66
J. Fassero      S.F.    29   6   1   6   0   2  59.2  63  31   4  18  33  4.68
J. Lieber       Phil    19  19   8   8   0   0 111.1 128  63  23  26  69  5.09
M. Aybar        NYM     22   0   0   0   0   2  25.1  31  17   4   7  27  6.04
J. Gonzalez     Bost     7   3   1   1   0   0  23.1  29  16   2   7  16  6.17
R. Mahay        Tex     24   0   0   2   1   5  27.2  37  20   5  10  26  6.51
S. Downs        Toro    12   1   0   1   0   0  22.2  24  17   6   7  13  6.75
H. Nomo         Tamp    18  18   5   7   0   0  98.0 119  74  15  48  54  6.80
T. Worrell      Phil    16   0   0   1   1   3  13.1  23  12   3   3  12  8.10
J. Cruz         Oakl    21   0   0   2   0   0  23.1  29  22   4  19  27  8.49
T. Adams        Phil    16   0   0   2   0   2  13.1  25  19   3  10   4 12.83

[fishbulb]

Would it have to be based on what they did while with the Cubs, or could I pick an ex-cub who had more success elsewhere? Like Dennis Eckersley?

[JC]

Would it have to be based on what they did while with the Cubs, or could I pick an ex-cub who had more success elsewhere? Like Dennis Eckersley?

 

Eck is precluded due to the HOF provision.

[fishbulb]

ah yes, I keep forgetting that rule, but it doesn't answer my overall question. Eckersley was more of an example.

[NomarSammy]

ok this has been fun reading..........I think I go with

 

P--Randy Myers (Obviously needs to be a pen guy--he is a lefty and he could work the 8th as he showed for Cincy or the 9th with us)

 

Pos--(i thought about Bobby Bonds to play center for us, but I didn't know if the rules where that it was talent when he was on cubs or at peak of career)--so instead I am going with Lance Johnson--I don't thinkwe need big boppers--we have enough of them.

 

Bench-- Miguel Cairo--anyone to get rid of Macias (I always liked him-especially the second time. I still wonder what he a Sarge Jr. must have done that night to both get released--I never understood that)

[wekse]

bp = mitch williams

 

pos = the hawk

 

bench = davey lopes

 

*EDITED in light of my mistake

Edited July 13, 2005 by wekse

[imb]

pos = andre dawson

 

DONT YOU CALL HIM THAT WETSKE

[wekse]

post is fixed, oh wait, now i get what you were saying...and i would NEVER call him that...he's by far and away my favorite Cub ever

[TenzilKem]

Starter: Bill North

Pitcher: Orval Overall

Bench: Mike Lum

[don_kessinger_was_good]

OF--Rick Monday. 370 OBP, good power, steals some bases, strong defense, can leadoff, plays CF. Monday is Mark Kotsay 30 years ago.

 

Pitcher--Bruce Sutter. Best. Cubs. Reliever. Ever. Forget this sissy 1 inning and done business, Sutter will come into the game in the 7th and finish it from there. On back to back days. Add in Dempster and does it really matter if the remaining bullpen guys are any good or not? Nope.

 

Bench--Keith Moreland is an excellent choice. Can play six positions and is a good hitter. I'll go with Jay Johnstone or Richie Hebner as the lefty complement to Moreland.

[biittner77]

OF--Rick Monday. 370 OBP, good power, steals some bases, strong defense, can leadoff, plays CF. Monday is Mark Kotsay 30 years ago.

 

Pitcher--Bruce Sutter. Best. Cubs. Reliever. Ever. Forget this sissy 1 inning and done business, Sutter will come into the game in the 7th and finish it from there. On back to back days. Add in Dempster and does it really matter if the remaining bullpen guys are any good or not? Nope.

 

Bench--Keith Moreland is an excellent choice. Can play six positions and is a good hitter. I'll go with Jay Johnstone or Richie Hebner as the lefty complement to Moreland.

 

1st,RF,LF -he could play

 

3rd, C- in a pinch maybe

 

what was the 6th position?

 

I should have excluded HOF candidates to eliminate obvious choices such as Dawson, Sosa, Palmeiro, Smith and Sutter.

 

Rick Monday was just a bit before my time. I vaguely remember him being on the team but that's about it.

 

Another active player I'd consider is Jose Viscaino. He'd solve the SS problem and be a better back up than Perez.

[FloridaCubbie]

Starter: Nomar

Pitcher: Fox

Bench: Dubois

[AlwaysaCub]

Zimmer should manage, just to mix things up Luis Gonzalez can come back to play left field, the Flash would set up, and maybe Kieschnik would be the 25th/26th man.

[B]

Kevin Orie, Brant Brown, and Henry Rodriguez.

[MikeyLikesCubbies]

Of people who are still playing who I wish we still had:

 

Starter-Moises Alou

Bench- Kenny Lofton

Pitcher-Kyle Farnsworth