Kenny Lofton

[Hector Villanuevas Pants]

Anyone notice he is having a really good year for Philadelphia. I know the Phillies are in contention; he plays CF not LF; and he's 100 years old. I see no reason why the Phillies would trade Lofton (especially to another team in the NL WC race). Still, he seems like one of those guys always on the move around the trade deadline. Dusty loves him and would play him (and let him bat leadoff).

 

Just thought I'd throw another unlikely name out there to further muddy the water.

[soapy]

I'm not a big Lofton fan. The only way I would be okay with him would be if we were also acquiring a "premium" bat in LF also. If Patterson got traded in the LF deal, I guess I could live with Lofton in CF until Pie is ready.

 

Even then, I'm not sure.

 

I'd just assume we solve our leadoff problem in house with Walker and Cedeno at the top of the order (or Hairston when he's playing).

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I agree. If I had to use Patterson to acquire someone like Dunn, then I could see going after Lofton to fill the CF void. Other than making a move like that, Lofton isn't a player I have much interest in.

[WindyCity]

I would only be interested in Lofton if its a deal that centered around Patterson and Abreu -- of course this is just a fantasy I keep having as there is no way on earth Abreu gets dealt.

 

BTW ...... Abreu >>>>> Dunn. :D

[bannor10]

I would love to have Lofton back and play him in LF. He might be a guy we could acquire after the deadline.....

 

I hope Hendry doesn't try to fill leftfield with just a guy who could hit HRs for us and strike out on a regular basis....They should just stand pat and not do anything rather bring in Preston Wilson for one year...

 

The problem with our offense is our leadoff hitter or lack there of.....Sure Lofton isn't going to hit 3-run homers like Wilson could but DLee can't hit 3-run homers either because nobodies ever on base.....

 

Of course Adam Dunn could change my thought process...

[cheapseats]

Lofton isn't a player I have much interest in.

 

Although he's only playing part-time for Philly, you can easily make the argument that Lofton is having a better season than any centerfielder in baseball. His OBP is .445. That's more than 60 points above Johnny Damon's OBP.

 

Lofton's slugging percentage is .476. We can't expect him to keep that up, but he's currently hitting the ball harder than Carlos Beltran, Vernon Wells, Steve Finley, Aaron Rowand, Mark Kotasy, and...Corey Patterson.

 

We wouldn't even need him to keep up his hot hitting for long, anyway, as his contract is up at the end of the season.

 

I guess we could put him in LF, but his defense is actually much better than Corey's so far this year.

 

I would be happy to see Lofton become a Cub again. He'd be a much better pickup than Wilson, for example.

[fiver]

Philly looks to be competing with us for the wildcard, so this is most likely not feasible. That said, I have to disagree with those that have stated that they'd only be interested in acquiring Lofton if we also were obtaining a power bat for LF. We'd be a better team right now if Lofton were playing center instead of Patterson...how can anyone argue otherwise?

[burnt out cubbie fan]

I would only be interested in Lofton if its a deal that centered around Patterson and Abreu -- of course this is just a fantasy I keep having as there is no way on earth Abreu gets dealt.

 

BTW ...... Abreu >>>>> Dunn. :D

Abreu is better than Dunn but I wouldn't say that he is >>>>> better. Although, I guess it depends on how much value you put into each >.

[Tom Servo]

Abreu is better than Dunn but I wouldn't say that he is >>>>> better. Although, I guess it depends on how much value you put into each >.

 

I would say he is much better than Dunn. Dunn has never come close to hitting .300 and Abreu is a career .306 hitter. He also gets on base MORE than Dunn. And is a huge threat to steal. And he is a great base stealer 60 for his last 68 sb attempts. Dunn has more power but Abreu still can hit 30+ homers. Actually he is on pace for 34 this year Dunn on pace for 41. But Dunn is only on pace for 129 hits and Abreu is on pace for 184.

Edited July 2, 2005 by Tom Servo

[rocket]

I would only be interested in Lofton if its a deal that centered around Patterson and Abreu -- of course this is just a fantasy I keep having as there is no way on earth Abreu gets dealt.

 

BTW ...... Abreu >>>>> Dunn. :D

 

ARod >>>>>>> Abreu.

 

Why not fantasize about ARod?

[burnt out cubbie fan]

Abreu is better than Dunn but I wouldn't say that he is >>>>> better. Although, I guess it depends on how much value you put into each >.

 

I would say he is much better than Dunn. Dunn has never come close to hitting .300 and Abreu is a career .306 hitter. He also gets on base MORE than Dunn. And is a huge threat to steal. And he is a great base stealer 60 for his last 68 sb attempts. Dunn has more power but Abreu still can hit 30+ homers. Actually he is on pace for 34 this year Dunn on pace for 41. But Dunn is only on pace for 129 hits and Abreu is on pace for 184.

Dunn is also 25 years old and has improved every year before this one.

[Tom Servo]

Dunn is also 25 years old and has improved every year before this one.

 

So that doesn't mean he is better then Abreu now which was my point and there is no way Dunn is better right now.

[rocket]

Dunn is also 25 years old and has improved every year before this one.

 

So that doesn't mean he is better then Abreu now which was my point and there is no way Dunn is better right now.

 

But I don't understand why you're bringing it up. Yeah, Abreu is better than Dunn.

 

Miguel Tejada is better than Neifi Perez. How is this relevent, I don't know. But it's true!

[burnt out cubbie fan]

Dunn is also 25 years old and has improved every year before this one.

 

So that doesn't mean he is better then Abreu now which was my point and there is no way Dunn is better right now.

If you are trying to figure out a potential trade target, age is definately a factor. Dunn can certainly help the team this year but he can also improve for many more years if he is signed long term. He will probably be playing the game a lot longer than Abreu since there is a 6 year difference in age.

[treebird]

Dunn is also 25 years old and has improved every year before this one.

 

So that doesn't mean he is better then Abreu now which was my point and there is no way Dunn is better right now.

If you are trying to figure out a potential trade target, age is definately a factor. Dunn can certainly help the team this year but he can also improve for many more years if he is signed long term. He will probably be playing the game a lot longer than Abreu since there is a 6 year difference in age.

 

miguel cabrera is younger

[burnt out cubbie fan]

Dunn is also 25 years old and has improved every year before this one.

 

So that doesn't mean he is better then Abreu now which was my point and there is no way Dunn is better right now.

If you are trying to figure out a potential trade target, age is definately a factor. Dunn can certainly help the team this year but he can also improve for many more years if he is signed long term. He will probably be playing the game a lot longer than Abreu since there is a 6 year difference in age.

 

miguel cabrera is younger

Good idea. I have a trade proposal!!!

 

rusch, mitre, welly, ice, koronka, piggy, pinto, wells, mathes, sing, dope, theroit, murton, dubois, patterson, 3 PTBNL, and 15 mil in cash for cabrera, pierre, and burnett

[rocket]

Dunn is also 25 years old and has improved every year before this one.

 

So that doesn't mean he is better then Abreu now which was my point and there is no way Dunn is better right now.

If you are trying to figure out a potential trade target, age is definately a factor. Dunn can certainly help the team this year but he can also improve for many more years if he is signed long term. He will probably be playing the game a lot longer than Abreu since there is a 6 year difference in age.

 

miguel cabrera is younger

Good idea. I have a trade proposal!!!

 

rusch, mitre, welly, ice, koronka, piggy, pinto, wells, mathes, sing, dope, theroit, murton, dubois, patterson, 3 PTBNL, and 15 mil in cash for cabrera, pierre, and burnett

 

not saying i'd do that trade, but i'd give up A LOT for miggy

[imb]

id give up anyone not named lee or prior for miggy. AND ITS NOT CAUSE IM GAY FOR THE MARLINS

[burnt out cubbie fan]

id give up anyone not named lee or prior for miggy. AND ITS NOT CAUSE IM GAY FOR THE MARLINS

Yes it is.

[treebird]

Dunn is also 25 years old and has improved every year before this one.

 

So that doesn't mean he is better then Abreu now which was my point and there is no way Dunn is better right now.

If you are trying to figure out a potential trade target, age is definately a factor. Dunn can certainly help the team this year but he can also improve for many more years if he is signed long term. He will probably be playing the game a lot longer than Abreu since there is a 6 year difference in age.

 

miguel cabrera is younger

Good idea. I have a trade proposal!!!

 

rusch, mitre, welly, ice, koronka, piggy, pinto, wells, mathes, sing, dope, theroit, murton, dubois, patterson, 3 PTBNL, and 15 mil in cash for cabrera, pierre, and burnett

 

west tenn + cash for cabrera and burnett

 

if necessary, we could include the actual region of western tennessee in addition to the team