Tom Ricketts SUUUUUUUCKS

[Jason Ross]

How much value do people think Mike Tauchmann or Alexander Canario had? Do we think that Jed Hoyer could have gotten more but just chose to let them go for less?

Tauchmann is a fine 4th OFer but one who didn't really fit the Cubs current, left handed heavy, OF. And Alexander Canario is a prospect who is in the very bottom of all Triple-A hitters in contact and whiff rates. I know he had some brief helium two years ago, but I don't think he's set up for success with his current skills and the Cubs letting him go is fine. He has no true path to playing time outside of a pure rash of injuries. If a starter goes down he's behind at least two better prospects. Neither really fit into the Cubs 2025 roster in a neat way (Tauchmann does little to add as a platoon option, Canario could hit LHP but you assume Turner is ahead of him there - and Canario isn't a real CF option)

I dont think it's impossible to find faults in Hoyer but neither Tauchmann or Canario feels like a hill, here. I think people are vastly overrating how much value each has in a trade. 

[Hot Sauce]

56 minutes ago, Ding Dong Johnson said:

Jed sucks and always has. 

A lot of people are going to look back on Jed’s time with a different perspective when he leaves and things for the Cubs stay the same. 

[jersey cubs fan]

19 minutes ago, Hot Sauce said:

A lot of people are going to look back on Jed’s time with a different perspective when he leaves and things for the Cubs stay the same. 

We will shift from saying he sucks to saying the guy who replaces him sucks just as much. 

[Stratos]

4 hours ago, CubinNY said:

Jed got a foot out the door already

If Ricketts is going to let Jed go into his last season of his contract without an extension then he shouldn't expect Jed to take all the heat and compromise his own reputation when certain things like the budget aren't Jed's decisions.

It doesn't even matter specifically whose fault it is.  If the Cubs aren't going to put a sensible amount of the money we give them back into this team then i'm just not going to give them any of my money anymore until that changes.  Things won't change until we do this.

[Backtobanks]

11 hours ago, 1908_Cubs said:

How much value do people think Mike Tauchmann or Alexander Canario had? Do we think that Jed Hoyer could have gotten more but just chose to let them go for less?

Tauchmann is a fine 4th OFer but one who didn't really fit the Cubs current, left handed heavy, OF. And Alexander Canario is a prospect who is in the very bottom of all Triple-A hitters in contact and whiff rates. I know he had some brief helium two years ago, but I don't think he's set up for success with his current skills and the Cubs letting him go is fine. He has no true path to playing time outside of a pure rash of injuries. If a starter goes down he's behind at least two better prospects. Neither really fit into the Cubs 2025 roster in a neat way (Tauchmann does little to add as a platoon option, Canario could hit LHP but you assume Turner is ahead of him there - and Canario isn't a real CF option)

I dont think it's impossible to find faults in Hoyer but neither Tauchmann or Canario feels like a hill, here. I think people are vastly overrating how much value each has in a trade. 

Who is talking about trading Tauchman?  For $2 million we could have a solid backup OF that could play all 3 positions plus give you a decent bat off the bench.  Instead we're looking at two infielders with little or no experience in the OF and a rookie who is the epitome of swing and miss.

[Jason Ross]

1 hour ago, Backtobanks said:

Who is talking about trading Tauchman?  For $2 million we could have a solid backup OF that could play all 3 positions plus give you a decent bat off the bench.  Instead we're looking at two infielders with little or no experience in the OF and a rookie who is the epitome of swing and miss.

But what role do you think Mike Tauchmann filled? He's a LHH and the Cubs have all three outfielders who hit left handed (Happ hits right handed, also). He's also trending in the wrong direction defensively - he was a negative OAA CF'er last year and is turning 34. So it isn't like he's providing plus defensive ability there. More so, the Cubs barely used him last year once PCA established himself - he played 40 games and have under 80 PA's the second half (compared to over 200 PA's and 60 games, showing that he was not starting often at all in the 2nd half). He had 30 PA's in the entire month of September. It's likely his role on the 2025 Cubs, with an all left handed OF is probably even less. With any injury to PCA, I would also assume that Kevin Alcantara would be next-man-up, not Tauchmann regardless.

Two things can be true simultaneously - Mike Tauchmann is a pretty decent fourth OF'er, and the Mike Tauchmann doesn't really fit a role in Chicago with the Cubs. I'd love to get things for people, sure, but sometimes players like Mike Tauchmann leave for free because they don't fill a role. I don't find that a failure on the part of Jed Hoyer.

The Cubs CF situation is a bit weird currently - I'd assume Jon Berti and Kyle Tucker will get some time there to spell PCA if Brujan doesn't make the team. But again, they have a top-100 prospect in Kevin Alcantara ready in the wings if need be, so I still think the team is pretty fine there.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

14 hours ago, Hot Sauce said:

A lot of people are going to look back on Jed’s time with a different perspective when he leaves and things for the Cubs stay the same. 

Not me. I haven't liked him since Theo brought him along.

[CubinNY]

33 minutes ago, Ding Dong Johnson said:

Not me. I haven't liked him since Theo brought him along.

He seems smug, and I feel for him, sort of. However, he can't spend his way out of this, even though that would make the team better in the near and midterm. Given the boundaries, it's his job to put the pieces together, and he hasn't done it well. He's not awful, but he's not good. 

When he leaves, we will see him in a different light—I think that depends on who they find to replace him. Andrew Freedman can run a small organization as well as a large one, and I don't think Carter Hawkins is all that much, either.