9/12 - Cubs (Assad) vs Rockies (Flexen): 7:40pm, Marquee

[Rex Buckingham]

Can't give away outs on the bases when we've got such little margin for error in the pen

[squally1313]

5 minutes ago, abuck1220 said:

not even remotely similar what-ifs.
 

but the point is the cubs look very bad right now. 

The cubs are like, optimistically, a 90 win team, right? The cubs have played 13 games this month, a vast majority of them against contending teams, 7 home/6 road, and gone 7-6. Which is an 87 win pace. It’s just…baseball? It’s a flawed team, this isn’t 2015-2017. We’re doing what we need to do to throw our hat in the ring at the end of the month. 
 

but I guess you could also just do the 5 game sample size and say things are terrible. 

[UMFan83]

9 minutes ago, Rex Buckingham said:

Can't give away outs on the bases when we've got such little margin for error in the pen

I was looking at the numbers against their ****** starter and despite only 3 ER, they managed 9 hits and 2 walks in 5.1 IP, so they hit him pretty well.  Why only 3 ER?  Well giving them an out on the bases in 3 separate innings begins to explain that.

-Instead of 1st and 3rd and 2 outs for Swanson in the 1st the inning was over.

-Instead of a runner on 1st and 1 out in the 2nd, it became Madrigal hitting with the bases empty and 2 outs

-Instead of a runner on 3rd with 0 outs in the 5th, it was bases empty 1 out and of course Nico singled later in the inning.

 

Edited September 13, 2023 by UMFan83

[abuck1220]

yeah I never said they were amazing and should never lose. it’s not like hysterical or something to say they’ve looked bad for the last six games. they have. 
 

are we really doing the “I’m the most level handed fan in the game thread” thing to the extent that you have to be like “no actually they looked GOOD tonight.”
 

[UMFan83]

I think the thing that drives me nuts is that we are making it so much harder on ourselves. Every team chasing us except the Giants has won the tiebreaker against us which is pretty damn significant in a tight race, and little things like losing back to back 9th inning leads against the Reds, or losing 3 straight 1 run games to the Marlins or losing 1-0 and then in extra innings on back to back days against the Diamondbacks are the reasons we don’t hold the tiebreaker against any of them. Other than the Giants we seem to save our most painful damaging losses for the teams that we most need to beat. 

*I realize we haven’t officially lost the tiebreaker to Arizona yet but it’s very likely 

Edited September 13, 2023 by UMFan83

[itisallpartoftheplan]

Giants lose. 16 games left for the Cubs.

Magic Numbers

Phillies 19

Dbacks 15

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Reds 14

Marlins 14

Giants 13

Need to finish higher than 3 of them. Only own the tiebreaker vs the Giants. Can get the tiebreaker vs Dbacks with a sweep this weekend.

[squally1313]

8 minutes ago, abuck1220 said:

yeah I never said they were amazing and should never lose. it’s not like hysterical or something to say they’ve looked bad for the last six games. they have. 
 

are we really doing the “I’m the most level handed fan in the game thread” thing to the extent that you have to be like “no actually they looked GOOD tonight.”
 

If you set the cutoff point right after the sweep of the giants, then yeah, sure, 2-4, not great! 1-1 on the road with two pitchers from the 3-5 range of our rotation? Not as bad. But slice it up however you want. And yes, the Rockies are terrible. But they’re also 30-39 at home vs 22-53 on the road. Coors is weird, not going to turn this into something it’s not. 
 

never said they looked good tonight. 9 runs in two games against bad pitching in coors isn’t really acceptable. Part of that is bad luck (see how many hard hit balls they had yesterday), part of that is bad ABs at bad times, part of that is bad decisions (stop giving them outs on the bases). I expect they’ll win tomorrow because they’re better and because they’ve been really good at winning series lately. Which is all you can reasonably expect from a road series. If they don’t, different conversation. 

[javy knows my name]

6 hours ago, CubinNY said:

you're going to love Coors

I really loved it

[soccer10k]

1 hour ago, abuck1220 said:

yeah I never said they were amazing and should never lose. it’s not like hysterical or something to say they’ve looked bad for the last six games. they have. 
 

are we really doing the “I’m the most level handed fan in the game thread” thing to the extent that you have to be like “no actually they looked GOOD tonight.”
 

I mean, you're the one seemingly pushing the panic button over a bad 6 games when, prior to these 6 games, the Cubs had won 12 of the 16 series since the ASB (along with two splits).

Their last 6 losses, four were by 1 run and another one was by 2. The last time they lost a game by more than 4 runs was August 13. They've lost 11 times since then and only 2 were by more than 2 runs.

Are you really trying to be so pessimistic to the extent that you have to be like "no actually the Cubs are BAD this year."