Bears off-season thread 2022

[jersey cubs fan]

 

He's not that good lol

 

Maybe not, but money can’t be the reason he wasn’t interviewed

Why interview a $1K hooker if all you have in your pocket is $60?

Because of the implication

[Wilson A2000]

Why interview a $1K hooker if all you have in your pocket is $60?

 

Because the Bears have plenty of money. If you have a few billion to build a new stadium, you have enough to pay a coach.

 

It could be Poles had his guy and didn't feel the need to interview rather than being cheap.

 

The Bears were interviewing coaches before Poles was hired

[Old Style]

 

Maybe not, but money can’t be the reason he wasn’t interviewed

Why interview a $1K hooker if all you have in your pocket is $60?

 

Because the Bears have plenty of money. If you have a few billion to build a new stadium, you have enough to pay a coach.

Sure they HAVE money but they throw nickels around like they’re manhole covers.

[WrigleyField 22]

This was a fun offseason builder tool. I think some of the valuations need work. But cool, nonetheless.

 

https://ontapsportsnet.com/2022/01/12/fix-chicago-bears-roster-customizable-document-offseason-cuts-trades-free-agents-draft/

 

Has a link to an excel download that you can use to sign players and build a depth chart while tracking the cap.

 

Did the following mock offseason. Tried to fill each spot in FA so as to leave draft as open as possible. But DT, LB, DB, and OL stick out as biggest needs into draft. So I'd try and hit two of those areas in Rd 2/3, maybe with a trade down to pick up another top 100 pick

 

Strategy was to "splurge" on a just few FA spots and fill with cheap depth elsewhere. Each of the cheap fillers estimated contract comes in under the ~1.8m that would count as a 7th comp debit. I think this strategy maxes my chances at netting a ARob comp pick. Cut Whitehair, Goldman, Cohen. Ran a PFF mock to finish.

 

 

QB- doing nothing here. Foles for his savings to cut is a fine backup. Would add a young PS QB.

RB- Ty Montgomery is an ideal 3rd RB and has familiarity with Getsy as a plus

WR- read that we can expect Getsy to go heavy 11 personnel. So we really wanna go 3 deep and I decided to avoid the top end of the market where things may get dicey. Kirk will play best out of the slot and him and Mooney both give good horizontal separation that Fields I think thrives with more than vertical separation. Wilson is a solid 3 with potential to be more and the size to play the outside and give a different look than Mooney/Kirk. Grant is gadget/PR. Goodwin a fine 4/5 WR on min salary. Sherfield I was just looking for someone with proven ST experience as the 6th WR. You'd still have Newsome as 7th WR, maybe practice squad. If the right draft value presents itself you can go that route still. This is now a young 3 WR core locked up for 3 years to grow with Fields until he ascends to superstar status

TE- just rounding out depth behing Kmet. I imagine not a lot of 12 personnel.

OL- stabilize the interior. Not married to Allen, but that spend allocation is about right. I showed cutting Whitehair, but he's really a wait and see approach. For much cheaper I think they can hopefully replace his contributions with a stopgap vet. And getting some solid swing tackles as backups is important. Compton/Spriggs fit the bill.

 

DL and LB are more or less the same story. Just went after bodies and going for depth. Find good fits for Eberflus and let them coach up the scheme. Read he only used his Sam backer about 20% of the time. That was Franklin for him in Indy, as well as being a core special teamer. Then grab some fliers to compete for the Mike job cheaply. I think 2/3 round could be a great place to grab an immediate starter at Mike though. Trevathan probably is a post June 1 cut, but keep him for depth until the draft. DL, uh, yea just some cheap rotational bodies. But wouldn't mind a draft pick there either. Eberflus will have to make sure his scheme can function with most of his pressure from the edges.

 

Cb2 is the only spot on D I made any decent investment. Haden as a 1 year stopgap works. Bring in another vet and also bring back Tabor to compete at slot with Graham. SS is another vet stop gap for cheap role. Again, anywhere in the DB I'd be open to a draft investment. But really counting on Eberflus to coach up the D. And it's looking like he'll have the staff to do it. So just focus on fits for his scheme.

 

Once I got to the draft, I liked the way this mock fell. There were enough good options that a trade down looked favorable. But at 39 there's always a chance a blue chipper falls. But as it was I think I get a day 1 Mike LB and two other future potential starters on D. Then good depth at RB and OL in the 5th as solid development prospects.

[raw]

MyCole Pruitt! Great signing. May want to offer him 10M/year just to make sure the Bears get him.

[UK]

 

Because the Bears have plenty of money. If you have a few billion to build a new stadium, you have enough to pay a coach.

 

It could be Poles had his guy and didn't feel the need to interview rather than being cheap.

 

The Bears were interviewing coaches before Poles was hired

 

Yep. And they let Poles interview and pick who he wanted. I'm sure had he wanted to, he would have been able to inquire about Harbaugh.

[mias_tisg]

[raw]

I know they were both consensus top 5 picks and are/were a much more prolific duo, but man I'm hoping the Bears can replicate the Bengals and get Fields' top target in the draft this year.

 

I'm already hearing doubters on Chris Olave and whispers that he may not even be a Day 1 WR. Fields fell way more than he should have. If Olave does too, I'm all for a reunion similar to Cincinnati.

 

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[WrigleyField 22]

I know they were both consensus top 5 picks and are/were a much more prolific duo, but man I'm hoping the Bears can replicate the Bengals and get Fields' top target in the draft this year.

 

I'm already hearing doubters on Chris Olave and whispers that he may not even be a Day 1 WR. Fields fell way more than he should have. If Olave does too, I'm all for a reunion similar to Cincinnati.

 

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I mean if Olave drops, okay. But he isn't Chase,like you said.

 

I'm generally a proponent of "surround your QB with weapons" though. Shore up Center and make a decision on Daniels/Whitehair (but I don't think the gross investment has to be large) to make the line solidly median. But it's a pretty interesting WR FA class too. And at 39 it's just so hard to bank on too much. And if nothing matters more to Fields development than legit weapons, grab certainty in FA. I figure they need to go 3 deep if Getsy prefers to run 11 personnel, as I've read. So grab two strong weapons next to Mooney. If an Olave drops its a great addition and you run 4 deep for 3 spots. But your Fields support isn't dependent on it then.

[UK]

I know they were both consensus top 5 picks and are/were a much more prolific duo, but man I'm hoping the Bears can replicate the Bengals and get Fields' top target in the draft this year.

 

I'm already hearing doubters on Chris Olave and whispers that he may not even be a Day 1 WR. Fields fell way more than he should have. If Olave does too, I'm all for a reunion similar to Cincinnati.

 

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I mean if Olave drops, okay. But he isn't Chase,like you said.

 

I'm generally a proponent of "surround your QB with weapons" though. Shore up Center and make a decision on Daniels/Whitehair (but I don't think the gross investment has to be large) to make the line solidly median. But it's a pretty interesting WR FA class too. And at 39 it's just so hard to bank on too much. And if nothing matters more to Fields development than legit weapons, grab certainty in FA. I figure they need to go 3 deep if Getsy prefers to run 11 personnel, as I've read. So grab two strong weapons next to Mooney. If an Olave drops its a great addition and you run 4 deep for 3 spots. But your Fields support isn't dependent on it then.

 

You're way more confident in Jenkins and Borom than me.

[WrigleyField 22]

I know they were both consensus top 5 picks and are/were a much more prolific duo, but man I'm hoping the Bears can replicate the Bengals and get Fields' top target in the draft this year.

 

I'm already hearing doubters on Chris Olave and whispers that he may not even be a Day 1 WR. Fields fell way more than he should have. If Olave does too, I'm all for a reunion similar to Cincinnati.

 

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I mean if Olave drops, okay. But he isn't Chase,like you said.

 

I'm generally a proponent of "surround your QB with weapons" though. Shore up Center and make a decision on Daniels/Whitehair (but I don't think the gross investment has to be large) to make the line solidly median. But it's a pretty interesting WR FA class too. And at 39 it's just so hard to bank on too much. And if nothing matters more to Fields development than legit weapons, grab certainty in FA. I figure they need to go 3 deep if Getsy prefers to run 11 personnel, as I've read. So grab two strong weapons next to Mooney. If an Olave drops its a great addition and you run 4 deep for 3 spots. But your Fields support isn't dependent on it then.

 

You're way more confident in Jenkins and Borom than me.

Eh, throw a chip block, they'll be fine.

[raw]

I know they were both consensus top 5 picks and are/were a much more prolific duo, but man I'm hoping the Bears can replicate the Bengals and get Fields' top target in the draft this year.

 

I'm already hearing doubters on Chris Olave and whispers that he may not even be a Day 1 WR. Fields fell way more than he should have. If Olave does too, I'm all for a reunion similar to Cincinnati.

 

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I mean if Olave drops, okay. But he isn't Chase,like you said.

 

I'm generally a proponent of "surround your QB with weapons" though. Shore up Center and make a decision on Daniels/Whitehair (but I don't think the gross investment has to be large) to make the line solidly median. But it's a pretty interesting WR FA class too. And at 39 it's just so hard to bank on too much. And if nothing matters more to Fields development than legit weapons, grab certainty in FA. I figure they need to go 3 deep if Getsy prefers to run 11 personnel, as I've read. So grab two strong weapons next to Mooney. If an Olave drops its a great addition and you run 4 deep for 3 spots. But your Fields support isn't dependent on it then.

 

You're way more confident in Jenkins and Borom than me.

 

I don't think you have much of a choice but be confident in those two. Like I have posted on here before, the Bears aren't going to get one of the top 3 guys (Orlando Brown, Cam Robinson, Terron Armstead) for upwards of 15-20Mil per. The next tier, Trent Brown may be a nice add for 10-12Mil but after that you're looking at guys like Morgan Moses, Eric Fisher, and other guys who are middle of the pack OTs. If best case in 8-10Mil per and a middle of the pack OT, you might as well go with the young guys and hope at least 1 of them develops into that level right away for much, much cheaper. 8-10Mil is middle of the pack OT money, but top 10-20 guard money. Plus, you hired an OC that likes the RPO. You can help the tackles by getting the ball out quicker, chipping with RBs, and keeping TEs in against tough rushers. Probably have to get a strong swing OT (4-5Mil) just in case one of those guys can't play outside (or Jenkins back is a huge issue), but to truly upgrade them you gotta spend a bunch of money that the Bears don't have if they want to fill 28 other roster spots.

[David]

[Bertz]

 

It's very funny to me how worked up people are getting about this. Like if Payton or Belichick or Tomlin were available yeah give them a blank check. But Jim Harbaugh's resume does not warrant such treatment. And I don't care about the McCaskey's pocket book, but I do care that a contract that big likely anchors him to the team longer than his performance would dictate and that a guy with that kind of contract would also have more influence over the GM than his performance would dictate.

[jersey cubs fan]

 

It's very funny to me how worked up people are getting about this. Like if Payton or Belichick or Tomlin were available yeah give them a blank check. But Jim Harbaugh's resume does not warrant such treatment. And I don't care about the McCaskey's pocket book, but I do care that a contract that big likely anchors him to the team longer than his performance would dictate and that a guy with that kind of contract would also have more influence over the GM than his performance would dictate.

One look at the coaching contract market shows that, indeed, his resume warrants such treatment. It's understandable to not want to give it to him, but the market clearly dictates that's what his price should be.

[WrigleyField 22]

I was somewhat high on Harbaugh as a possibility, but I do get it. Especially if you felt strong about a GM candidate.

 

Bringing in Harbaugh almost certainly would have raised the floor while he was here, whether that was 6,8, 12 years, whatever. But a strong GM at the top of the org is much more likely to bring long term org building to the plate. Even a failed GM like Pace will leave behind a legacy of org improvements that should stick. So if GM first/on top was the preference, it probably did require a unique set of circumstances to make a Harbaugh happen instead.

 

Will be very interesting to see if he ends up in Minny or Miami. In both cases it looks like it'd be an owner forcing a marriage between GM and HC and that GM losing autonomy. Harbaughs 49er run ended in part to inability to work with FO.

[jersey cubs fan]

Ryan Poles is emotional.

[mias_tisg]

I stopped caring about press conferences awhile ago but this one is rough. Eberflus is using acronyms like he's Tim Beckman and using "Chicago tough". Hope this works out.

 

Edit: I actually think Poles has been impressive

Edited January 31, 2022 by mias_tisg

[UMFan83]

[JeffH]

The one good point that Coach Eberflus made is that a defensive coordinator schemes against offenses. Seems obvious, but it's not talked about much. A defensive-minded head coach can support an offensive coordinator in that way, as opposed to an offensive-minded head coach possibly just echoing the same ideas.

[jersey cubs fan]

I don't know how he wanted him to answer this. Everybody knows he's a defense guy who has to rely on his OC and offensive staff to make the offense work. I'm not sad at all that he's handling this that way. I'd hate for him to come out and say we're going to run the ball every play, which Bears fans were probably dying for.

[David]

 

if we're worried about what matt spiegel thinks, might as well paint the whole picture

[UMFan83]

I cant listen, what have either of them said about Fields if anything?

[jersey cubs fan]

I cant listen, what have either of them said about Fields if anything?

Very little. Quite a few questions about the players already here and it's obvious they don't want to go deep into their thoughts on the personnel.

[David]

I cant listen, what have either of them said about Fields if anything?

 

Hasn't been much specifically said other than the positive comments you'd expect about being excited to build around him.