Week 1: Bears at Rams

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It’s a rock and a hard place. There’s a 1% chance Daltons noodle arm finds someone 15 yards downfield and maybe a 3% chance the Rams commit a penalty to give the Bears a 1st. But a FG does nothing. Also there’s the fact that it doesn’t matter because the Rams are scoring on every possession anyways

This Bears D can't stop the Rams twice in 10 minutes.

 

I get the 4th and 15 is like an onside kick but it was by far the right move by a magnitude of infinity.

Highlight of my night is arguing this point against former Bears Dez Clark.

 

But yeah, maybe not all the 3 & outs (actually 0). Only 1 punt. In opponents territory all night. But again 14 points scored is never going to be enough. And again, held off the board until the final 2 minutes of the half. Made a point to add a bunch of speed to the offense, but 0 completions longer than 11 yards. I'm not sure they even had an attempt over 13, and that 13 yarder was on 4th & 15.

 

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This Bears D can't stop the Rams twice in 10 minutes.

 

I get the 4th and 15 is like an onside kick but it was by far the right move by a magnitude of infinity.

Highlight of my night is arguing this point against former Bears Dez Clark.

 

But yeah, maybe not all the 3 & outs (actually 0). Only 1 punt. In opponents territory all night. But again 14 points scored is never going to be enough. And again, held off the board until the final 2 minutes of the half. Made a point to add a bunch of speed to the offense, but 0 completions longer than 11 yards. I'm not sure they even had an attempt over 13, and that 13 yarder was on 4th & 15.

 

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Highlight of my night is arguing this point against former Bears Dez Clark.

 

But yeah, maybe not all the 3 & outs (actually 0). Only 1 punt. In opponents territory all night. But again 14 points scored is never going to be enough. And again, held off the board until the final 2 minutes of the half. Made a point to add a bunch of speed to the offense, but 0 completions longer than 11 yards. I'm not sure they even had an attempt over 13, and that 13 yarder was on 4th & 15.

 

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[We Got The Whole 9]

Nagy said Fields would have played more had the game been closer... It's impressive how he comes up with more reasons to hate him

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Poor ARob:

 

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Yeah

[UMFan83]

[UK]

What a mess. Only the Bears can be bad at the most important position on offense and defense.

 

Dalton is a QB who can get you 10 wins with a great defense and 4 with a bad one.

 

I have no clue how they could not prioritize Fuller and watching him and the Broncos secondary excel (I know it was against NYG) proved it. The NFL is designed to where the DBs are more valuable to creating a pass rush than a DL given doubles and chipping someone like Mack. Yet, the Bears have only one true starter in Johnson and the rest is bad.

 

Montgomery was amazing, the interior blocked great and Williams is a solid backup. Borom didn't play much but I thought he looked better than I expected.

 

Frustrating. The inability to create a functional roster is numbing but expected.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Poor ARob:

 

That is stunning. I wonder what Mooneys looked like, more of the same I'd guess

[Wilson A2000]

If Nagy was going to use Dalton for 5 yard weak passes most every play and a high school offense, all the more reason to put Fields in

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Paying Jimmy Graham $7M to take 14 snaps. I think they could have just given those snaps to Jesse James and been okay....

[UMFan83]

Bears offensive production the first 9 games of the 2020 season with Matt Nagy controlling playcalling:

 

19.7 points per game, 318 yards per game

 

Bears offensive production in the 6 games that Lazor was controlling playcalling:

 

29.7 points per game, 348 yards per game

 

Bears offensive production in the 3 games since Nagy for some reason took over playcalling again:

 

13.0 points per game, 254 yards per game

 

Now, this is a bit of a deceptive statistic I'll admit. For one, Lazor took over a stretch where we played 4 of the worst defensive teams in the league. Nagy took back over to play the Packers, Saints and Rams. But I guess my point is, clearly the Bears offense was producing with Lazor calling plays regardless of the reason. Why the need to wrestle back control when things were working?

[minnesotacubsfan]

I don't think equating Nagy and Lazor that way makes any sense until you see Lazor call a game against a Rams or Saints defense. He should be given the chance, certainly.

[UMFan83]

I don't think equating Nagy and Lazor that way makes any sense until you see Lazor call a game against a Rams or Saints defense. He should be given the chance, certainly.

 

I agree, all I'm saying is that the offense produced more with Lazor, regardless of reason, and there was no reason Nagy should have taken back over IMO.

 

When Lazor took over the Bears called the most play-action passes in the league, designed to get Mitch out of the pocket and to one side of the field where he could scan the field easier and make a read. Maybe that would be useless for a veteran like Dalton but I'm just stuck on the fact that he made a quantifiable change and it worked.

 

 

Edit: Here is an excerpt from an article talking about this in January:

 

One of the biggest reasons — in addition to the revamped offensive line — for the improved play has been the playcalling. A few weeks ago, Nagy revealed that he had turned over playcalling duties to offensive coordinator Bill Lazor. The improved results were almost immediate.

 

The gameplan incorporated much more play-action — most in the NFL during this stretch — and bootlegs which get Mitchell Trubisky out on the perimeter and on the run. This allows him to cut the field, and consequently his reads, in half, simplifying the amount of information he has to process.

 

Mitch has even commented on how happy he is that plays are being called to his strengths. As a result, Bears fans rejoiced and lauded Lazor for turning things around, with some even calling (prematurely) for him to replace Nagy as head coach.

 

In their previous five games, the Bears have score 41, 33, 36, 34, and 41 points respectively. And while most have singled out Lazor, it appears he is not entirely responsible for this transformation. In fact, it appears Nagy, the man who relinquished the responsibilities in the first place, may be back in the saddle. Or at least taking a more assertive role in playcalling, according to Rapoport.

 

Fans who have paid attention this year probably figured as much when they saw Cole Kmet run a jet sweep on the goal line last week. It was such a stereotypical “Nagy play” that it felt as though he had called it himself.

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I don't think equating Nagy and Lazor that way makes any sense until you see Lazor call a game against a Rams or Saints defense. He should be given the chance, certainly.

 

I agree, all I'm saying is that the offense produced more with Lazor, regardless of reason, and there was no reason Nagy should have taken back over IMO.

 

When Lazor took over the Bears called the most play-action passes in the league, designed to get Mitch out of the pocket and to one side of the field where he could scan the field easier and make a read. Maybe that would be useless for a veteran like Dalton but I'm just stuck on the fact that he made a quantifiable change and it worked.

No, the Play Action definitely isn't just a Mitch thing. It's a good cheat code, even for good QBs.

[UMFan83]

I still can't believe this crap. I've seen blown coverages before (Reggie Wayne in the Super Bowl, Chris Conte vs. the Packers) but can't remember seeing many where the receiver is 10+ yards ahead of any defender.

 

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I still can't believe this crap. I've seen blown coverages before (Reggie Wayne in the Super Bowl, Chris Conte vs. the Packers) but can't remember seeing many where the receiver is 10+ yards ahead of any defender.

 

Punter needs to put more hang time for his gunners... Oh wait. Oh no.

[Tim]

I still can't believe this crap. I've seen blown coverages before (Reggie Wayne in the Super Bowl, Chris Conte vs. the Packers) but can't remember seeing many where the receiver is 10+ yards ahead of any defender.

 

Funny - you captured the exact moment when I turned off my tv

[minnesotacubsfan]

if only we could still play cover 2

[Bertz]

I don't think equating Nagy and Lazor that way makes any sense until you see Lazor call a game against a Rams or Saints defense. He should be given the chance, certainly.

 

I agree, all I'm saying is that the offense produced more with Lazor, regardless of reason, and there was no reason Nagy should have taken back over IMO.

 

When Lazor took over the Bears called the most play-action passes in the league, designed to get Mitch out of the pocket and to one side of the field where he could scan the field easier and make a read. Maybe that would be useless for a veteran like Dalton but I'm just stuck on the fact that he made a quantifiable change and it worked.

No, the Play Action definitely isn't just a Mitch thing. It's a good cheat code, even for good QBs.

 

Except for Ben Roethlisberger, even back when he was good. That's one of my favorite weird NFL nuggets is that it essentially works for everybody in the league regardless of QB and RB quality... except for that horsefeathers.

[WrigleyField 22]

 

I agree, all I'm saying is that the offense produced more with Lazor, regardless of reason, and there was no reason Nagy should have taken back over IMO.

 

When Lazor took over the Bears called the most play-action passes in the league, designed to get Mitch out of the pocket and to one side of the field where he could scan the field easier and make a read. Maybe that would be useless for a veteran like Dalton but I'm just stuck on the fact that he made a quantifiable change and it worked.

No, the Play Action definitely isn't just a Mitch thing. It's a good cheat code, even for good QBs.

 

Except for Ben Roethlisberger, even back when he was good. That's one of my favorite weird NFL nuggets is that it essentially works for everybody in the league regardless of QB and RB quality... except for that horsefeathers.

Huh don't recall seeing that ever.

[Bertz]

No, the Play Action definitely isn't just a Mitch thing. It's a good cheat code, even for good QBs.

 

Except for Ben Roethlisberger, even back when he was good. That's one of my favorite weird NFL nuggets is that it essentially works for everybody in the league regardless of QB and RB quality... except for that horsefeathers.

Huh don't recall seeing that ever.

 

[minnesotacubsfan]

when your QB is a lumox with rapey qualities, it's just better to have him stand in the pocket and deflect the onslaught I guess

[UMFan83]

[UMFan83]

 

Interesting breakdown of the breakdown and seems to assign a majority of the blame on that play to Marqui Christian, and possibly some to Eddie Jackson who Stafford was able to look off on the play.