Week 17 Chezhead McGees vs Bears

[minnesotacubsfan]

I wish they'd fire Nagy honestly, and hire the OC Lazor as the HC

[Derwood]

Has an NFL coach or GM ever been fired after going to the playoffs?

 

Several:

 

Tony Dungy - 2001

Marty Schottenheimer - 2006 (after going 14-2, lol)

Mike Mularkey - 2017

Lovie Smith - 2012

 

Uh.....your bolded is wrong. 10-6, but no playoffs for 2012 Bears.

 

ESPN lied to me? Shocking

[UMFan83]

The more I think about it, the more that report about Nagy regaining significant influence in playcalling bothers me. If that’s true, it’s possible that what Lazor was doing was actually working and Nagy trying to take over again is horsefeathering things up. I thought the playcalling last week seemed different than what we saw against Houston and Minnesota. Yes they scored 41 but it was a more conservative game plan with short passes. If what Lazor was doing was working why would Nagy horsefeathers that up, like he can’t handle someone else getting the credit for fixing his offense.

 

Maybe I’m looking at it too black and white. Clearly Nagy as head coach is always going to be heavily involved in the offensive game plan, so maybe the Bears just played some terrible bottom feeding defenses and now they aren’t

 

No, that is 100% THE ISSUE. Somehow, Matt Nagy lost his ability to craft an offense. Lazor could, and by the way, MN had a pretty good defense.

 

Yeah i think DVOA has them at like 16th for the year but clearly trending downwards since the Saints put 52 on them the week after and the Lions 35 this week.

 

Anyways but the other 3 teams (DET, HOU and JAX) came into the week as the 30th, 31st and 32nd best defenses per DVOA. Almost the easiest possible 4 game stretch an offense could possibly have. Bears took advantage which is a credit to them as I’ve seen even worse Bears offenses struggle against terrible defenses in the past, but it’s clear to me that this was a major reason for the offensive emergence.

[raw]

They're not firing Nagy, guys. No need to even continue talking about it.

 

Who the hell cares? Bring them all back, hire a real president of football operations, have that person oversee and stop Pace from dumb decisions and Nagy from whatever the hell he's doing with playcalling.

[minnesotacubsfan]

They're not firing Nagy, guys. No need to even continue talking about it.

 

I can still wish it

[NOLA]

so now we hope for a Saturday game right

 

I'm not sure I want to ruin my Sunday that way. Might be better to roll it all into the Sunday Night Blahs and have a crappy Monday instead

 

Alvin Kamara can't play if the game is Saturday. Can if Sunday.

Someone can correct me on this, but Kamara tested positive so NFL protocol dictates he’s out through Saturday, but the rest of the players who were out due to contact tracing can be active after two negatives, correct?

[minnesotacubsfan]

The more I think about it, the more that report about Nagy regaining significant influence in playcalling bothers me. If that’s true, it’s possible that what Lazor was doing was actually working and Nagy trying to take over again is horsefeathering things up. I thought the playcalling last week seemed different than what we saw against Houston and Minnesota. Yes they scored 41 but it was a more conservative game plan with short passes. If what Lazor was doing was working why would Nagy horsefeathers that up, like he can’t handle someone else getting the credit for fixing his offense.

 

Maybe I’m looking at it too black and white. Clearly Nagy as head coach is always going to be heavily involved in the offensive game plan, so maybe the Bears just played some terrible bottom feeding defenses and now they aren’t

 

No, that is 100% THE ISSUE. Somehow, Matt Nagy lost his ability to craft an offense. Lazor could, and by the way, MN had a pretty good defense.

 

Yeah i think DVOA has them at like 16th for the year but clearly trending downwards since the Saints put 52 on them the week after and the Lions 35 this week.

 

Anyways but the other 3 teams (DET, HOU and JAX) came into the week as the 30th, 31st and 32nd best defenses per DVOA. Almost the easiest possible 4 game stretch an offense could possibly have. Bears took advantage which is a credit to them as I’ve seen even worse Bears offenses struggle against terrible defenses in the past, but it’s clear to me that this was a major reason for the offensive emergence.

 

Yes, the meat of that schedule was against bad D's, but MN had held TB to 303 yards the week prior to the Bears and for fearer points. They weren't a nobody D when the Bears showed up. I don't know if they lost someone to injury against TB, however, and that could have certainly played a part

[Tim]

 

No, that is 100% THE ISSUE. Somehow, Matt Nagy lost his ability to craft an offense. Lazor could, and by the way, MN had a pretty good defense.

 

Yeah i think DVOA has them at like 16th for the year but clearly trending downwards since the Saints put 52 on them the week after and the Lions 35 this week.

 

Anyways but the other 3 teams (DET, HOU and JAX) came into the week as the 30th, 31st and 32nd best defenses per DVOA. Almost the easiest possible 4 game stretch an offense could possibly have. Bears took advantage which is a credit to them as I’ve seen even worse Bears offenses struggle against terrible defenses in the past, but it’s clear to me that this was a major reason for the offensive emergence.

 

Yes, the meat of that schedule was against bad D's, but MN had held TB to 303 yards the week prior to the Bears and for fearer points. They weren't a nobody D when the Bears showed up. I don't know if they lost someone to injury against TB, however, and that could have certainly played a part

Weren't they down their top two corners for that game?

[raw]

 

I'm not sure I want to ruin my Sunday that way. Might be better to roll it all into the Sunday Night Blahs and have a crappy Monday instead

 

Alvin Kamara can't play if the game is Saturday. Can if Sunday.

Someone can correct me on this, but Kamara tested positive so NFL protocol dictates he’s out through Saturday, but the rest of the players who were out due to contact tracing can be active after two negatives, correct?

 

Correct.

[minnesotacubsfan]

 

Yeah i think DVOA has them at like 16th for the year but clearly trending downwards since the Saints put 52 on them the week after and the Lions 35 this week.

 

Anyways but the other 3 teams (DET, HOU and JAX) came into the week as the 30th, 31st and 32nd best defenses per DVOA. Almost the easiest possible 4 game stretch an offense could possibly have. Bears took advantage which is a credit to them as I’ve seen even worse Bears offenses struggle against terrible defenses in the past, but it’s clear to me that this was a major reason for the offensive emergence.

 

Yes, the meat of that schedule was against bad D's, but MN had held TB to 303 yards the week prior to the Bears and for fearer points. They weren't a nobody D when the Bears showed up. I don't know if they lost someone to injury against TB, however, and that could have certainly played a part

Weren't they down their top two corners for that game?

 

looking back at the TB/MN game Summary, they lost Boyd during the TB game, so if their other CB was out already, that would be the case

[Wilson A2000]

So the last time the Bears went to New Orleans for a big playoff game...

[WrigleyField 22]

, hire a real president of football operations, have that person oversee and stop Pace from dumb decisions and Nagy from whatever the hell he's doing with playcalling.

That's just a new GM

[UMFan83]

[raw]

, hire a real president of football operations, have that person oversee and stop Pace from dumb decisions and Nagy from whatever the hell he's doing with playcalling.

That's just a new GM

 

Well they don't have the balls to fire Pace so this is the next best thing.

[raw]

, hire a real president of football operations, have that person oversee and stop Pace from dumb decisions and Nagy from whatever the hell he's doing with playcalling.

That's just a new GM

 

Well they don't have the balls to fire Pace so this is the next best thing.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Exactly

 

ETA: and honestly, this is what makes it so hard for me to judge Trubisky. How can you know about anything with this offense when Nagy is causing bigger issues?

Edited January 4, 2021 by minnesotacubsfan

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Nagy's game plan had them within a score, with the ball, inside the opponent's half of the field, in the fourth quarter, against a vastly superior team. If that's his ego, I want more of it.

[UMFan83]

Game is at 3:40 Sunday so Kamara will play

 

Full schedule:

 

 

The game will be on CBS, Amazon Prime and....Nickelodeon?

Edited January 4, 2021 by UMFan83

[Wilson A2000]

Game is at 3:40 Sunday so Kamara will play

 

Still has to test negative, but darn. Maybe the Bears can skip like the college teams who said we're done this year.

[WrigleyField 22]

Nagy's game plan had them within a score, with the ball, inside the opponent's half of the field, in the fourth quarter, against a vastly superior team. If that's his ego, I want more of it.

That last 4th and inches call will put a damper on what was a fairly decent game plan. That was ugly as a call.

 

Then things spiraled in minutes, mainly because they had no choice but to try and let Mitch win it.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Nagy's game plan had them within a score, with the ball, inside the opponent's half of the field, in the fourth quarter, against a vastly superior team. If that's his ego, I want more of it.

That last 4th and inches call will put a damper on what was a fairly decent game plan. That was ugly as a call.

 

Then things spiraled in minutes, mainly because they had no choice but to try and let Mitch win it.

 

I don't tend to get too caught up in the individual play calls. Every playcall looks terrible when it doesn't work and brilliant when it does. They went 4-for-5 on 4th and short. Sometimes the defense just wins.

[UMFan83]

Nagy's game plan had them within a score, with the ball, inside the opponent's half of the field, in the fourth quarter, against a vastly superior team. If that's his ego, I want more of it.

 

It’s hurt them more than it’s helped them these last 3 seasons. Perhaps aggressive playcalling turns 2 of those FGs on 4th and 2 into TDs and they are up 3 instead of down 5.

 

I’m not suggesting the bears start slinging it down the field the whole game but throwing 90% of your passes to within 3 yards of the LOS is not done because you are trying to slow the game down, it’s because you don’t trust your QB to throw anywhere farther even when the situation requires it.

[NOLA]

Kamara’s playing.

 

[WrigleyField 22]

, hire a real president of football operations, have that person oversee and stop Pace from dumb decisions and Nagy from whatever the hell he's doing with playcalling.

That's just a new GM

 

Well they don't have the balls to fire Pace so this is the next best thing.

But it's not really a thing I guess is my point.

[Tim]

Nagy's game plan had them within a score, with the ball, inside the opponent's half of the field, in the fourth quarter, against a vastly superior team. If that's his ego, I want more of it.

That last 4th and inches call will put a damper on what was a fairly decent game plan. That was ugly as a call.

 

Then things spiraled in minutes, mainly because they had no choice but to try and let Mitch win it.

Moose seemed to imply that he thinks Graham blew his route and was supposed to pick Robinson's defender. Play call looks a lot better if that's the case.