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[Sammy Sofa]

How many of those times hitting 7th came vs LHP?

 

Wait, wait, wait....so your response is to blatantly shift the goal posts to now argue that he must have just bad luck of the draw seen more LH pitchers when hitting 7th vs. 5th?

 

Come on, man.

 

When Heyward was hitting leadoff the first time Joe was moving him from 1st to 7th on some days so I would bet those bad 7 hole numbers were due to facing LHP and getting dropped down.

 

Heyward only has 91 PA against LH pitchers this season.

[Sammy Sofa]

I love these "my dick is bigger than yours" arguments.

 

Well, that's certainly a weird take.

[Edith Cox]

Yes, because it's not some bizarre micro sample piggybacked on the back of some weirdo meatball narrative. This is simply, "Kyle Schwarber has not been bad with RISP this season."

 

You spelt I picked the best year since it fits the narrative better despite always bitching about SSS wrong.

 

That "good" year with RISP has him up to .193 lifetime which only Mike Zunino is lower among players with 400 or more PA in the situation in all players fangraphs has listed in modern history.

[Edith Cox]

Heyward only has 91 PA against LH pitchers this season.

 

Only 13 of those PA came hitting 5th and 30 came 7th despite the same PA total between the two spots.

 

5th

.200/.385/.200/.585 in 13 PA vs LHP

.367/.466/.617/1.082 in 73 PA vs RHP

 

7th

.172/.200/.276/.476 in 30 PA vs LHP

.367/.429/.571/1.000 in 56 PA vs RHP

[Sammy Sofa]

Yes, because it's not some bizarre micro sample piggybacked on the back of some weirdo meatball narrative. This is simply, "Kyle Schwarber has not been bad with RISP this season."

 

You spelt I picked the best year since it fits the narrative better despite always bitching about SSS wrong.

 

That "good" year with RISP has him up to .193 lifetime which only Mike Zunino is lower among players with 400 or more PA in the situation in all players fangraphs has listed in modern history.

 

Yes, he is fine with RISP this year, and it's absurd to act like past performance somehow negates that. You're just spitting in the wind at this point when you've descended to the point that you basically WANT him to also be terrible with RISP this season.

 

And, again, I put that out there just to counter how you were flat out wrong declaring him to be "comically bad" this year. I don't think the small sample size of his numbers with RISP this season means he's magically shrugged off that weird blind spot for good, but he is doing relatively fine in that situation right now.

[Sammy Sofa]

Heyward only has 91 PA against LH pitchers this season.

 

Only 13 of those PA came hitting 5th and 30 came 7th despite the same PA total between the two spots.

 

5th

.200/.385/.200/.585 in 13 PA vs LHP

.367/.466/.617/1.082 in 73 PA vs RHP

 

7th

.172/.200/.276/.476 in 30 PA vs LHP

.367/.429/.571/1.000 in 56 PA vs RHP

 

In a more sensible world, this would be the moment where you realize the whole point was the absurdity of acting like tiny sample sizes based on lineup spots shows where a player should hit.

 

Here, I'll make this as simple as I can: Heyward has been leading off for 10 games. In the last 24 games, his line is only .258 .313 .438 .751. OK, so maybe you think that is only dragged down by his time leading off. But his July line is a shaky .309 .333 .420 .753 inflated by a .421 BAbip. He was clearly struggling well before he went to leadoff, and had his numbers boosted by a very lucky BAbip.

 

In August so far, his slash line is worse, but his BAbip is a wretched .160. He swung from being lucky while slumping to being REALLY unlucky on top of slumping. This all points to a guy struggling at the plate, as he did in May. To extrapolate that to mean he is only struggling because he is leading off makes no sense. Heyward should be moved, but because he isn't well right now, period. If he starts performing like he did in April and July, it would be foolish to not try him at leadoff again.

[Derwood]

Schwarber will always have bad avg/obp slash lines because his BABIP will always suffer so long as teams are allowed to overshift for him. You either live with that or you complain about it 24 times a day

[Janelle-Alexis]

His OPS as the first hitter of the game is .983 because the lone 3 hits he has to start games are XBH while that BA is .200 the OBP is .250.

 

Do I care that he got to .983 by driving himself in instead of taking a walk to potentially be driven in? Stats prove that Jason Heyward is better at leading off than Rickey Henderson. Facts don't care about your feelings, snowflake.

 

Seriously, though, you make a fine point that Heyward isn't the right person to be hitting at the top of the lineup. It's just that you can't believe that someone who has been a mediocre hitter for his entire Cubs career could go back to being mediocre after a hot June. It must be because he mentally can't handle having to pick up a bat 15 minutes earlier.

[Edith Cox]

Too bad he can't get on base like Henderson then maybe he would have more than 4 runs that he didn't knock himself in on.

[Janelle-Alexis]

Too bad he can't get on base like Henderson then maybe he would have more than 4 runs that he didn't knock himself in on.

 

Are you still going on about a stat that I pulled solely to express how stupid I think the goofball splits you use are.

[Edith Cox]

You have to get on base to score, He has a horsefeathers OBP leading off so he has 7 runs despite 3 HR and 2 triples in the role

[We Got The Whole 9]

Szymborski's post is aging real well. Cubs are gonna cough up their advantage in a jiffy.

[We Got The Whole 9]

At this point I'm hoping he breaks the single game record today. JFC.